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Packing for a red eye flight to Geneva tomorrow.

I have an email from Easyjet stating that I can take my Scott Alpride airbag on as hand luggage.

Can I take my shovel and probe on as hand luggage too?
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JoyZipper wrote:
Can I take my shovel and probe on as hand luggage too?
What do you think airport security will say when they see those items as your hand luggage is x-rayed? Bear in mind that you are not allowed to take something as small as a pair of nail scissors...
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rob@rar wrote:
JoyZipper wrote:
Can I take my shovel and probe on as hand luggage too?
What do you think airport security will say when they see those items as your hand luggage is x-rayed


I don't know - that's why I asked.
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I think the clue is in @rob@rar,'s question. The word is "think"!
Of course you could always try carrying on an ice axe, then they might overlook the shovel and probe in the ensuing panic 👿
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JoyZipper wrote:
rob@rar wrote:
JoyZipper wrote:
Can I take my shovel and probe on as hand luggage too?
What do you think airport security will say when they see those items as your hand luggage is x-rayed


I don't know - that's why I asked.
To me it's fairly obvious. No, of course not. Why would security let you through with a 2m metal spike with a pointy end? Plenty of airports have display cabinets showed confiscated items, which include little nail scissors, very small pen knives, knitting needles, and any number of lotions and potions above 100ml, etc. By all means give it a try, but prepared for your problems and almost certainly your shovel to be confiscated.
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They're in the ski bag 👍
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Wait... you're taking checked baggage and you even asked the question?

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JoyZipper wrote:
They're in the ski bag 👍


Which you're taking as hand luggage. I can't work out whether you're just trolling, or being deliberately dim.
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You cannot take a Tennis or Squash Racquet on board Aircraft Hand Luggage os I know the answer to the OP is NO
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To me it's fairly obvious. No, of course not.


To be fair....!

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=35342
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@eblunt, that's a bit mean, it's just a question- which has been asked here and TGR before, I wouldn't know the answer either without doing it myself

Also there's no rule on nail scissors and similar harmless items, the list of prohibited items is fairly obvious stuff (guns, knives, explosives, blowtorches, acid, liquids over 100ml etc)
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@moseyp, there may be no rule on nail scissors but I've been stopped with them recently. It seems like the security folks are set on eliminating all hand baggage, dangerous or not. rolling eyes
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There is a rule on anything sharp, I have seen lots of people lose their nail scissors.
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You are being a wee bit harsh on the poor guy/gal.... although nothing to do with the OP's question you can actually take something sharp in hand language inc knife/scissors etc as long as blade/sharp bit is less than 6cm!!

https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/personal-items
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JoyZipper wrote:
Packing for a red eye flight to Geneva tomorrow.

I have an email from Easyjet stating that I can take my Scott Alpride airbag on as hand luggage.


Just because you have an e-mail from EasyJet there's no guarantee that the airport security staff at the xray machines will accept it, ultimately it's their decision not EasyJet's. Personally I wouldn't risk it even with the email but would be interested to hear how you get on
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@biddpyat, I don't really believe that, they are not on the list of prohibited items. I've always travelled with a nail scissors, several times a month. Here's the list

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/modes/air/security/doc/info_travellers_hand_luggage.pdf

Shovel and probe don't really fit the description of anything on here (and a probe, obviously, doesn't have any sharp parts) so I don't see why it would be a problem.
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@moseyp,

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Shovel and probe don't really fit the description of anything on here (and a probe, obviously, doesn't have any sharp parts) so I don't see why it would be a problem.


I'd have thought there's a serious chance that they could be considered dangerous under the following category:

"blunt instruments (objects capable of being used to cause serious injury when used to hit)"
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moseyp wrote:
@biddpyat, I don't really believe that, they are not on the list of prohibited items. I've always travelled with a nail scissors, several times a month. Here's the list

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/modes/air/security/doc/info_travellers_hand_luggage.pdf

Shovel and probe don't really fit the description of anything on here (and a probe, obviously, doesn't have any sharp parts) so I don't see why it would be a problem.

Maybe it depends on the airport, but I have seen people lose their scissors, and to be honest I wondered why after all you can't do much damage with a nail scissors. Then again some security staff can be very over the top and fussy.
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Now let's see. If I am expecting to have to defend myself against an aggressor, would I choose a probe or a shovel over a pair of nail scissors? Not a difficult choice, really....
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A quick jab under the nose with the blade of a shovel would be my move of choice. Followed swiftly by the handle into the balls.....
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@pam w, I think I'd go with a nail scissors (to the throat I guess?), mine is frightening sharp. My probe is not solid and wouldn't be any use, the shovel I'm not sure about either-aluminum is a bit light

In reality I would curl up into a ball and wail if actually attacked.
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@biddpyat, I assume there's different rules outside the EU - wouldn't be surprised if the TSA is stricter
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@moseyp, my nail scissors were questioned at Cambridge airport. I pointed out that they were less than the proscribed length, and was told that it didn't matter, they were sharp so no go. My wife travels with hypodermic needles and glass vials of clear liquid (emergency medication) and has never been pulled up, nor asked to provide the doctor's letter. Doesn't make any sense to me.
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That’s the frustrating thing - you can’t ever be sure how the rules are going to be interpreted. I took my Citadel bike lock in the summer and that would be a pretty effective blunt instrument, but then so would a ski boot. Sadly, despite politicians’ rhetoric, the terrorists ‘won’ when these rules were introduced - they affect the day to day lives of thousands of people every day of the year.
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On the official list Knitting needles are ok in cabin bags!

https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/personal-items

Obviously some jobsworth security departments interpret the Governments rules differently!
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boredsurfin wrote:
On the official list Knitting needles are ok in cabin bags!

https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/personal-items

Obviously some jobsworth security departments interpret the Governments rules differently!
Always the risk, and while losing a knitting needle to an overly zealous security guard is not a big deal (I assume, I'm not a knitter), losing an expensive avy problem under the same circumstances would be a PITA.
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olderscot wrote:
"blunt instruments (objects capable of being used to cause serious injury when used to hit)"


Yep, my shovel handle on it's own would make a great club... Combined with the sharp (by aviation security standards) scoop I'd not even think of risking it in carry on.
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Easyjet now let you check in your hand luggage for £5. That way you can pack what you like as it won't go through security.
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A frequent topic on climbing forums is whether you can take climbing ropes as hand baggage. They are often not allowed because they can be used as a restraint!! the logistics of using an 80m 9.8mm rope to tie up cabin crew is mind boggling, unlike heavy duty cable tie type handcuffs which of course are not banned

Re nail scissors, in the 9/11 attacks the hijackers used box cutter knives to gauge the eyes of the cabin crew, something for which nail scissors could be equally useful
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speachmaus wrote:
Easyjet now let you check in your hand luggage for £5. That way you can pack what you like as it won't go through security.
Your hand luggage won't go through security if you pay easyjet a fiver? Are you sure?
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@rob@rar, it goes through the same security as any other hold luggage. See: http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=134589
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@DJL, OK, I understand now. But your can't call that hand luggage as most of us use that term because your bag goes in to the hold with your other checked-in luggage.
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eblunt wrote:
JoyZipper wrote:
They're in the ski bag 👍


Which you're taking as hand luggage. I can't work out whether you're just trolling, or being deliberately dim.


I'm not sure my ski bag would fit in the overhead locker - my skis are 180cm long.
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On the rocks wrote:
JoyZipper wrote:
Packing for a red eye flight to Geneva tomorrow.

I have an email from Easyjet stating that I can take my Scott Alpride airbag on as hand luggage.


Just because you have an e-mail from EasyJet there's no guarantee that the airport security staff at the xray machines will accept it, ultimately it's their decision not EasyJet's. Personally I wouldn't risk it even with the email but would be interested to hear how you get on


Security picked up on it (gas canisters and an electronic device - a Gopro). After showing them the email and the person checking with his manager everything was fine.
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@rob@rar, yes it's a new thing they are doing. I did it yesterday frim Edinburgh to Munich. It was great. As tgere is no weight limit to hand luggage as king as the size is ok. I packed my heavier stuff in it to keep my ski bag under 20kg .however it was all self weigh there now anyway and I struggled with balancing my roller ski bag on the scales as they were against a pillar so couldn't lay it on the scales.
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@rob@rar, http://www.easyjet.com/en/hands-free-upgrade
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@speachmaus, it sounds like a cheaper way of carrying more stuff, but it was the notion that hand luggage did not go through security that confused me. It's not really hand luggage, and it is subject to whatever security arrangements that hold luggage is subject to. Thanks for the link.
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@rob@rar, yes it goes with all hold baggage. I meant you dint have to stick with the liquid restrictions etc that hand luggage is scanned for.
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It's just a cheap way of carrying a small bag. And rather better value than the normal hold charge. And, presumably, you can still take a second bag into the cabin. Given the size you can take in the cabin these days, there can't be many holidays where you couldn't manage with just two of them. Skiing is a bit of an exception if you have to carry boots etc.
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@pam w, yes you can take a second bag but it has to be the smaller sized one for "under seat" stowage.
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