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Smaller/quieter European resort with some challenge for experienced piste skiers

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Hi, looking for resort recommendations for a week next year (2 adults), probably 1st week of March give or take a week or so.

We usually go to big, well-known areas (3 Valleys, St Anton, Sestriere\Sauze, Whistler...) but getting fed up with the increasingly busy slopes (and to some extent lift queues) in these popluar areas.
Fortunately we can avoid UK half term(s) but it's always busy around that time of year with other nation's holidays, and it's not practical for us to take a week in really low season.

So we wondered about trying a smaller, quieter resort this time. We are fast (piste-only) skiers and cover a lot of ground (when it's not busy) hence gravitating to big areas in the past, but we also tend to find favourite spots and ski them a lot and/or regret having spent half the day on lifts when trying to get round all the runs and make the most of the lift pass, so thought we might not miss the big areas we're used to.

We like some cruising but also steeps as we are red/black skiers. Also prefer a higher resort to avoid slush and warmth as much as possible.

We're not really into serious nightlife or apres but definitely like to go out for a couple of beers in the evening. Any type of accommodation works for us, chalet/apartment/B&B.

A reasonably attractive base (i.e. not French tower blocks) would be preferable but is a nice-to-have.

Currently considering La Thuile (have read the recent thread on here), or perhaps one of the smaller, high Austrian resorts. Of course, suggestions of any larger resorts which are known for being less crowded would also be welcome Happy

Thanks in advance!
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@VodkaSorbet, I visited Serre Chevalier last year for the first time and fell in love with it. Plenty of skiing to be had, including in Italy, and Serre Che itself restored my faith in rural France, which had been dented by over-exposure to the big domains.
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+1 for serre che. Lovely terrain for red/black skiers (and anyone else, really). I reckon I could spend an entire day just lapping the Luc Alphand piste down to Chantmerle and be happy.
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@Maireadoconnor,
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I could spend an entire day just lapping the Luc Alphand piste down to Chantmerle and be happy.
Me too!
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Thanks, will take a look!
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Hurtle wrote:
@Maireadoconnor,
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I could spend an entire day just lapping the Luc Alphand piste down to Chantmerle and be happy.
Me too!


I'll race you Twisted Evil Toofy Grin
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Mmmm bit of a tough ask that one. Smaller doesn't necessarily mean quieter.

Les Contamines or ADH are suggestions from me.


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@Layne,
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Don't think we should be finding any solace in Saints hammering. They aren't anywhere near where we want to be or indeed could be GB72.

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@Maireadoconnor, I concede right now! Laughing
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Smaller doesn't necessarily mean quieter.


I suppose I meant less famous/lower profile and therefore possibly less popular.
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[quote="Hurtle"]@Layne,
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Don't think we should be finding any solace in Saints hammering. They aren't anywhere near where we want to be or indeed could be GB72.

Puzzled
Sorry mixed messages! Corrected.
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VodkaSorbet wrote:
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Smaller doesn't necessarily mean quieter.


I suppose I meant less famous/lower profile and therefore possibly less popular.

If you haven't been ADH it's definitely worth a shout. In early March the "big" runs up top should be in great nick. Ski down from Dome Grande Rousses to Vaujany - I'm sure you'll love it and want to do that numerous times. You don't have to stay in ADH, we stay in Oz-en-Oisan which is nice and as a couple of nice bars. Les Contamines may just be a tad small for you and it's probably a better off piste bolt hole. But the piste is good also. The main town is nice.
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Ischgl in 2nd or 3rd week Jan (after Russian New Year)
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Or Kappl, and do a day trip to Ischgl?
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@clarky999,
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Ischgl in 2nd or 3rd week Jan

Is it quiet around 1st week of March, when OP planning to go?
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Take a look at Serfaus-Fiss-Ladis. Huge Terrain, not so crowded as French resorts, great snow record and a nice alpine village.
Could also consider the Zillertal Arena, Saalbach (one of the best lift service in the world) or Obertaurn. They all offer great terrain and quieter environment this time of the year.
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@clarky999,
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Ischgl in 2nd or 3rd week Jan

Is it quiet around 1st week of March, when OP planning to go?


Oops, missed that - just saw "don't have to go in half term" Embarassed

That week overlaps with Faching I think, so unlikely. Mid-Jan is the quietest I've seen it.
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@VodkaSorbet, you need to avoid the 4 week French half term. Mid March would be ideal for Serre Che.
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Don't go anywhere in France the first week of March.
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AS Pam says mid March in France is probably the best time if you want it quiet. The first week in March is still the school holidays and the week after is nearly as busy with people who've booked to miss the school holidays.
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Warth (skiArlberg)
Never busy, neither is Lech-Oberlech.
Some crowds in Zürs since last year because of connection St.Anton.
But if you switch to St. Anton before lunch and return to Warth in afternoon, you are completely anticyclic.
Warth skiresort is completely northfacing
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Champoluc (or any of the Monterosa village)? Good skiing, high plus good snowmaking (it’s been known to be windy, esp overnight), good quasi-controlled off piste, some steep blacks, Italian hospitality, food wine and value for money ...

What’s not too like?
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@VodkaSorbet, have you tried Austria? Kitzbuhel, Warth (as mentioned above) would be worth a look. I had a week in Stuben over Easter once then went to a course in Morzine which I felt was mobbed compared to Stuben but apparently was quite for Morzine!!

Others to look at IMHO, Obertauern, Laax, Ischgl, Val d’Anniviers
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Serre Che is a great mountain but the lift system doesn't do it justice.
120 Snowheads can't be wrong. Most are very good skiers. Arabba.
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That week overlaps with Faching I think, so unlikely.

@clarky999, I believe that Fasching week is the w/c 10/02/18. Last week of Feb and into March was last year.
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+1 for Champoluc.

Big spread out area with long, very fast and perfectly groomed pistes. Great food on the mountain too.
Apres is quiet but very friendly and accommodation very well priced for a good standard.
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Try the Grand Domaine (Valmorel) very family oriented so rather empty out of the holidays and the more difficult runs are even more empty. The resort does not offend the eye either. Still a couple of drag lifts in the lower altitude Doucy Sector but I've only ever used them once a day to access the higher slopes when I'm driving up the hill as Doucy has easy and free car parking.
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@VodkaSorbet, for one out of the box we like Åre, Sweden. Some great accommodation for decent prices on the Skistar website. Madeye-Smiley
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Les Contamines

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I'm a huge fan of the Kronplatz area. Might suit. Can link in to main Dolomites area but that is easier with a hire car.
I see someone has suggested Serfaus Fiss Ladis and that is somewhere I intend trying this season as well
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I don't think Les Contamines is ideal for folk wanting challenging piste skiing. The Veleray blacks are it, really and they don't hold their snow well, unlike much of the resort.
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Les Contamines has 9 black, 19 red, 12 blue 8 green according to their website. 48 runs in total

My recollection was that there was plenty of challenging skiing. But I was skiing with young children and dabbling off piste.

Somewhere like Val D'Isere is 3 times the size but according to ski resort info the split is:

Easy 170 km (57 %)
Intermediate 78 km (26 %)
Difficult 52 km (17 %)

But of course there is a lot off piste.

Personally I don't think Les Contamines is tame but sure there may be places that have more difficult runs.
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Yeah, if you don't have to go to France in vacances scolaires, probably best not to. It's not necessarily the end of the world, but it's necessarily not "quiet".

Whereas e.g. Monterosa will be quiet.
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@cameronphillips2000, 40 on the SoPI bash in Serre Chevalier for the past 6 years can't be wrong either.

@VodkaSorbet, French school holidays are finished on 10th March.
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I know you said you don't want a big resort, but I honestly think Val d'Isere/Tignes would be ideal for you (unless you've been there already and didn't like it for some reason). I go every year mid-March and have done for the last ten years. The snow is always excellent, and there are always quiet pistes to be found in the corners of the resort away from the busier sections. Yes there are people about, but the lifts are so efficient there are few queues.

It's huge, varied, challenging and interesting. You can do some wonderfully long runs in Tignes like Sache and the gorgeous pistes from the glacier down Descente and Double M, and you'd love La Face, Foret, Epaule du Charvet and OK in Val.

Worth a look for fast piste skiers...I definitely wouldn't say nearly 60% of the runs are "easy".


Here's La Face de Bellevarde:

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@VodkaSorbet, I visited Serre Chevalier last year for the first time and fell in love with it. Plenty of skiing to be had, including in Italy, and Serre Che itself restored my faith in rural France, which had been dented by over-exposure to the big domains.


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Worth a look for fast piste skiers...I definitely wouldn't say nearly 60% of the runs are "easy".


According to piste-maps.co.uk Espace Killy has 20 Green, 68 Blue, 40 Red, and 26 Black so 57% green and blue. Of course grading can be or seem variable.
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@HoneyBunny, except it's in France and they are more or less planning to be there during vacances scolaires...which would remove it from my consideration given alternatives.
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I think I can feel my ski legs growing back...end of summer and all - although Geneva is enjoying a lovely Indian summer which is most pleasant snowHead
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left field choice - Solda (aka Sulden am Ortler) in Sud Tyrol.

High, spectacular, quiet with some good steeps and big vertical.

If you do a search you'll find a trip report from me from some years ago. Someone (Mikepow?) visited a couple of years ago and wrote anther report. Never met anyone from the UK who has skied there.

Recommended.
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@VodkaSorbet, Nendaz and stay at Hotel Les Etagnes, Dutch owned, great family - great fun.....no need to get exposed to normal Swiss rip off, family run boutique type hotel and great food. Lively(ish) terrace/ apres and next to main lift over to Verbier (a couple of ups and downs but pretty quick). Fly into Sion and local bus transfer or into Geneva and train to Sion.
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