 Poster: A snowHead
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hello all
I would really appreciate some advice. In October I managed to crack a bone in my left foot (have a small bone chip nr. ankle joint), because of this break, my brain forgot where my foot was & I fell over a few times, tearing a ligament in that foot and also a ligament or 2 in the right ankle - so, I have 2 bad ankles. We are going skiing end of march. my questions are? has anyone any similar experience? should I do gentle exercises & have some gentle lessons - (I have been skiing since I was v.small, so am confident & fast but untidy!) I think the lessons are maybe quite important as my brain still isn't completely sure where my left foot is.
Also (sorry!) I really need some new ski boots - do I go for softer ones?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Also (sorry!) I really need some new ski boots - do I go for softer ones?
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I'm sure smallzookeeper will be along in a mo to answer your questions & give advice, if not drop him a pm
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Oh and welcome and best of luck getting back into it!! 
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cheers Dan - I will never book & pay for a ski holiday in sept. again!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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rpft@rpft.co.uk, You shouldn't have to many problems. Essentially the ski boot is a plastic cast, so will support the foot and ankle. Most important things are to get some good orthotics made to stop the joints over working and ensure you can wear them in everyday footwear.
With regadrs ski boots, i would always say buy. They have to be custom built for your ability and foot/leg's needs. This may require an investment in time but can often be the difference. Stiffness, don't read too much into this. Your weight and aggressiveness are more a factor than percieved ability. Find yourself a good bootfitter and treat them well. Try CEM in Bicester for you orthotics, he can also advise you as to which shell shape and flex will be the most appropriate. Good Luck. 
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smallzookeeper - thanks for the advice - will go to CEM.
rebecca
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Get a stability cushion / wobble cushion. They are fantastic at gently building up strength and stability.
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scarpa - thanks - hadn't thought of that, didn't realise they built up strength either.
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When I mauled my ankle, a goalie told me that I'd know it was better (i.e. that my brain had re-learnt to balance as well as building up strength) when I could stand on the one leg (the dodgy one) and go up and down on tiptoe without falling over. Though that might have just been his way of providing cheap entertainment as I wobbled around the place! 
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ouch, just tried that with both - can almost do it! the consultant said that being able to stand on one foot with eyes closed is the ultimate test for damaged nerves. look like a real idiot doing that one.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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rpft@rpft.co.uk, If you stand on one and slowly drop into a crouch (like a downhill skiing position), maybe put some swivels from the waist to each side, it's surprising how much your muscles feel the strain. A lot of the football and rugby training sites now incorporate the techniques.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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scarpa are you trying to kill me?
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rpft@rpft.co.uk,
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scarpa are you trying to kill me?
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Only if he can watch 
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You know it makes sense.
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Im thinking of selling tickets....
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I heard of a woman who can do squats on top of a swiss ball - now that is some balancing skills 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Get a stability cushion / wobble cushion.
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I pulled the ligaments in my ankle falling off one of these....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I find that skiing is just about the only thing where having dodgy ankles doesn't matter. I broke my ankle back in 1983 & started skiing the following year. Never had a problem. I then managed to tear a ligament in the same place in the same ankle many years later and it is definitely still weak - certain sitting positions in yoga are still murder on it all these years later. I don't wear high heeled shoes anymore because of it & I'm always terrified of going over on it when I'm out running. Because my ankle is strongly supported in my ski boots however, my ankle has never even felt sore at the end of a day's skiing.
Don't push yourself too hard once you are out skiing & just see how it feels - you may be surprised. I was told by my doctor when I tore my ligament that cycling on a stationary bike was a good way of buiding up the strength in the ankle but not on a real bike as you may fall off!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Scarpa,
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I heard of a woman who can do squats on top of a swiss ball - now that is some balancing skills
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that woman is Chemmy Alcott, and a dare say most of the others on the WC circuit can do the same.....now that really is core stability
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CEM, Ta for the name - will search for info. Although seals are quite good at balance exercises also.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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until CEM named the skier who does ' squats on a swiss ball' I had assumed that scarpa had been watching too many 11.00 freebies!!
Sazza42 - I had always assumed this about ankles, but a skier (instructer) who I really respect told me that you really need your ankles to ski properly - and this is why I started this thread.
thanks ever so to all who gave suggestions. I am feeling more positive about skiing in march now. trouble is, I just know that when I get on the first lift - all ability to rationalise flies away and f**k the ankles will be the last comment rattling around in my head! 
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sazza42, I was told by my doctor when I tore my ligament that cycling on a stationary bike was a good way of buiding up the strength in the ankle but not on a real bike as you may fall off!
will try this - thanks
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I'm sure you do need your ankles for skiing, but what I'm getting at is that skiing seems to make them ache less than some other activities.
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AJ Bear has the best stability ball balance tricks!
You can't tell where foot is because you damage proprioceptive nerves from that area... these nerves give feedback on muscle tension (so you know if the muscle is tense) and rotation and angulation of a joint (from muscle data).... Hence they provide the information you need to know where it is and how fast it is moving (or how fast it will go when you let the opposing muscle that is holding it still go)....
I have no proprioception at all (as far as we know) - no proprioceptive nerves seem to have survived my birth... no knee jerk reflex etc... I can ski & do... just had to learn a little harder....
Any balance work you do on that ankle will help you improve.... Dynadisc will REALLY help strength and balance.... try to stand on 1 leg and to then do 1 leg squat.... just go as faR AS YOU CAN.... You can try tapping on a wall with a finger to aid balance to start with.... REALLY focus on the sensations in you foot (touch and pressure) as you do it and it will be easier....
Unless you are very unlucky the nerce will grow back and you will be fine .... but the training helps to prevent reinjury in the interim (which can be months)
If you don't wantb to get a dynadisc & your gym does not have one try a small running trampoline thingy... or a small thin pillow
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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little tiger, Are you a qualified Physiotherapist?
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little tiger, cheers for this info., - have only just read it. think nerve is better as i haven't fallen over for ages! feel v.sorry for you not having the proprioceptive nerves - i found it extremely unnerving not knowing where that foot was .... will try to get a disc thingy.
rebecca
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