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Verbier 4 Vallées 2017/18

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30cm in the garden this morning and still tipping it down. It’s the perfect Bruson day!

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La Tzoumaz 10.12.13 Sunday morning walk back from the boulangerie, snow arrived earlier than predicted, racquettes the best way to get around. Snow falls moderate at first:


http://youtube.com/v/hJr5xyKfzWE

but now (10:30CET) heavier. Forecast to fall all day and early evening, tailing-off overnight. Hopefully we'll have a clear window to drive back to GVA in the morning before the next wave hits lunchtime Monday (11.12.13). Otherwise we'll just have to stay here for the next few days .....
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Up to almost 60cm and getting heavier 😳

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Add to this what is forecast for the next few day....the next time we see grass/rocks will be April, maybe May.
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Took this about an hour ago, while returning from a snowshoe walk.



MeteoSwiss just issed an 'Avalanche Level 4' snow warning for La Tzoumaz area.
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75cm in the garden when we left and still going strong!
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How much more to come?
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Trying to decide where to book in mid-January, just scored a deal on plane tix BOS>ZRH; with four of us, figured we'd drive instead of train.

These pix are starting to tip the scales...it would be our first visit to Verbier.
Can anyone fill me in on ease of access to/from Verb if based in La Tzoumaz?
Thanks
Ted
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@nosefacekilla, it’s a 10min gondola up and then a 10 min ski down the other side to the Mayentzet lift from where you access the Verbier lift system. The risk is that the gondola taking you back from Verbier is very old and prone to closing in high winds. There is also a risk that the path you need to take on your way to Verbier sometimes closes if there’s too much snow due to avi risk from above in which case you can take down the old gondola and get a bus from the bottom across to Medran and into the Verbier system. If you’re intermediate level and ok to take the risk of being restricted to the La Tzoumaz system in case of bad weather days it’s ok (La Tzoumaz is good in bad weather because of the trees). Personally I’d stay in Verbier or Le Chable/Nendaz (if you’re Looking for cheaper accommodation). Enjoy!
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(Obviously, I'm biased, as our apartment is there) La Tzoumaz is a typical 'satellite' resort, so that probably says it all, pros and cons. There's a couple of articles on it

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2014/dec/06/satellite-ski-resorts-verbier-four-valleys-switzerland
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2296527/How-Verbier-cheap--stay-little-sister-La-Tzoumaz.html

although I'd actually say that it's more suited to self-catering types than luxury catered chalet devotees. As mentioned, the downside is that the lift back up from Verbier to Savoleyres is the oldest/slowest in the domaine, so prone to being closed in high winds. And the piste down to Mayentzet can be closed if there's too little, or too much (avalanches) snow. Perversely, the télécabine from La Tzoumaz to Savoyres is relatively new and fast. The village isn't a party venue (the usual bars etc but not Verbier-class nightlife). However, most of the area is north-facing so the snow is less prone to thinning. And it's quieter (at busy times, knowledgeable Verbi-ites often come over to escape the crowds). The luge run is fun, if it's open. I would say that the limit of a relaxed day's ski are the slopes above Siviez (Combatzeline). When we want to ski Veysonnaz we drive over so we can relax and do that area without worrying about the trek back.

Taje a look at our Rental Agent's website to get an idea of what's on offer: http://www.carron-immobilier.ch/en/ [Property-Type=Rental / Category = includes the living room, so 2 bedrooms = 3 rooms apt]

As always, it depends a lot on what you are looking for.

Another thought: if you have a car, you might consider staying in the valley and trying out a variety of resorts in the Valais. There's the usual cheap accommodation, but take a look at the thermal spa resort of Bains de Saillon (https://www.bainsdesaillon.ch/en/). Not as up-market as the well-know places like Leukerbad - they may have some special offers as you're going outside the school hols. Nice thing about staying in a thermal resort is that if the weather is terrible, you can do the spa thing instead. And it can work better for a mixed group where one or more aren't necessarily keen to ski every day. Just an idea.

The Swiss Tourist website is a good place to start looking: https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-gb/suggestions/winter-holiday.html

TBH there are probably resorts closer to Zurich than the Valais and I'd always concede that Verbier is pretty central for the 4 Valleys - if the links to the satellites (La Tzoumaz, Nendaz, Veysonnaz) are down/congested, then it has the largest area and off-piste options.

Finally, if you're driving, then check on the parking arrangements. Our place, like many apartments, has underground parking included, but not all do. Hotels parking is often outside or may gloss-over having to use expensive public car parks.
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what a great feel in this town with all the snow - just generally happy folk about...there is a lot of snow.
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Oh boy that looks fabulous...

https://www.facebook.com/powderextreme/videos/10155667865036210/
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@LaForet & @BobinCH : Thanks for the info, very helpful!

The self-catered thing is what we're looking for...rip all day, refuel and crash. We're more into making turns than having two+ hour lunches...
Nightlife is not a concern, maybe dinner out one night but that's it.

LaTz looks like a good option, and we'll have a car so we can get around. I think we'll stick to the 4 Valleys, plenty to explore. Off-piste looks like it'll be good (if the long range forecasts are relatively accurate). I spend a lot of time in the trees...I'd rather get dialed into the mountain than ski a new one every day, so maybe I'll splurge on a guide first day to speed up the process.

Like some of the rentals on LaForet's link, but they only do full weeks; we're looking Weds-Sun, so I'll poke around to find something.

Pray for snow!
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@nosefacekilla, the best trees are in Bruson. But you really don’t come to Verbier for trees! Try Airbnb for 5 day acommodation. And from what you’ve said consider Le Chable. Quicker access to the best off piste and Bruson option for bad weather days. Rungsp and (I think) Steve Sparks have apartments there and can probably advise you!

For guide try and get with Powder Extreme - they made the video linked above and will find you the best terrain and conditions

With a car i’d recommend doing a Chamonix Day if you haven’t been there. I think it’s covered with your lift pass and is an hours drive from Verbier
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@nosefacekilla, as he says...for your criteria Le Chable would be best.
A Powder Extreme day would be a very good choice.
I would strongly suggest Olly Norris http://www.ollynorris.com/index.html as a guide to show you some spots, especially if you want to skin a bit.

To find somewhere perhaps call Chalet Appartment Rentals https://www.chaletapartmentrentals.com/property-type/holiday/ as they have are based in Le Chable and have more choice there. Don't be put off by the full week prices and dates...everything is negotiable these days.

Less that an hour to drive to Chamonix from Le Chable.
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@nosefacekilla, Le Chable does give you greater options. We don't rent our place out, but I have a good friend who may have some accommodation choices for that period. Also Le Gietroz and L'Ardze Hotels in Le Chable are simple and good value or the newly opened Una Lodge. If you want to go budget, there's Mont Fort Lodge, in the lift station. You don't get closer the lift than that!

Powder Extreme are running camps 22-26 Jan and 29-2 Feb, which are great value and a fabulous way to explore the terrain. A number of us are booked on to the earlier one, this will be my 12th!

I think Chamonix's only on the pass if you have an annual one. But still worth a trip.
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I know @Steve Sparks' friend's place...would be an excellent choice.
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i am staying at an apartment run by la ruinettes....in la chable - pretty damn good if ur asking .....

they have a website - Guy is a good bloke.
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@Steve Sparks, just sent you a pm for rental contact

Thanks for everyone chiming in, saves a ton of time!
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@rungsp, @Steve Sparks, can someone send me a contact for @Steve Sparks friend's place? Thnx
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@nosefacekilla, sorry, been a bit busy. I've sent you a pm.
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The legend in the Attelas couloirs on Friday 😎
https://instagram.com/p/Bcu_e5XHhNv/
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@BobinCH, absolute legend, still no excuse for nicking your line though wink
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Bluebird today...

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Still fabulous powder everywhere and no one on the slopes - so wonderful
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Anyone skiing today?
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Will be on Sunday 😄
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I'll be there tomorrow. If anyone is out there too: give me a shout!!
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Best conditions in the forests - bruson / vallon d’arbi / col des mines traverse right / creblet traverse right. More pics here: http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=134748&highlight=
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The boss opening up Mont Gélé...
https://instagram.com/p/BdDmcX2B1xf/
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@BobinCH, Is that S Couloir?
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Bouquetin couloir. What a line 😎
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Pistes are sublime everywhere. Chassoure and Gentianes have some lovely chalky, grippy snow in them. Off down the Vallon D’arbi today.
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Started properly snowing around 1700 last night and still going. Maybe 15cm fresh so far.
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Some fantastic skiing yesterday. Well over half a metre in places. Got lucky and was in the first couple of dozen in Chassoure when it opened. Mt Fort sector closed all day, so more of the same today.

The incoming system on Saturday looks phenomenal. Wet lower down, but huge accumulations higher up.
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Raining to 2000m and nothing open above that point. Verbier Savolyeres bubble closed. Avalanche risk 4.

At least the apartment’s looking clean and sparkly!
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Already raining at 2000m? Eeeesch with it getting warmer and heavier this avo that will make for some seriously gloopy snow until it cools down again 😟
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Love NYE in place centrale. Last night it was rocking!

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