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Well you're not exactly a shrinking violet when it comes to 'pointing things out'.
It might amuse you to know that my first journalistic job was on a skateboard magazine - Skateboard! - which was the UK's most successful, during the late-70s boom. The editor never stood on a skateboard, but the content was super hot.
The credentials game isn't very snowHeads - it would just lead to unfriendly rivalry. If mistakes are made they can be corrected. I've clearly under-estimated the percentage of helmet users in Switzerland right now. Apologies for that.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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why why why do you guys have to do this? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I agree. The world should be seen through rose-tinted goggles.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| Last week the distinguished US ski safety research Jasper Shealy quoted 28% using helmets, but I believe this was a US figure. |
In that case it must vary a lot between resorts. It was at least 80% in Snowbird last week, based on the average tram users head cover of choice.
I don't know about Jasper, but Snowbird is regarded as one of the "harder" US resorts, which probably has a bearing.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| I bought a fleece for £65 that turned out to be no better than a cheapy. Was I Goggled? |
 best post on this slightly irksome thread
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Who are you calling an irk?
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the usual attempt at smoke and mirrors to distract attention, this was the problem:
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| michaelc. Welcome to snowHeads! The majority - probably at least 90% - of people only wear goggles in a white-out/bad light, or when snow is falling (mainly because it stings the eyes). |
It doesn't accord with other peoples experience, so it's fair to ask what this observation's based on and if it's current. You can't, or won't, answer as usual which is fine. You can hardly blame me if I think it's something you made up under the circumstances.
these were all of the same ilk:
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ise, I disagree with that prediction, and would put money on it. Next time you go on the slopes in good light, count the proportion of people wearing goggles and helmets.
In 5 years time the numbers of helmet wearers will have increased, but I'd be amazed if it was more than 30% on any European slope.
The proportion of goggle users in good light is highly unlikely ever to be greater than 10%, because people find them sweaty.
We can play around with the percentages, but I'd be happy to lay the bet on agreed percentages. |
So, you seem to accept for Switzerland at least this was wrong and are presumably glad you didn't really put money on it.
If you, or anyone else I suppose, are saying it wasn't strictly necessary for me to suggest you were making it up and never actually went skiing and wondering why you did this all the time then I accept that's quite right and I'm very sorry, all I can say is I've been wondering for a while and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
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Are you calling me an irk?
I have a simple approach to life and writing. Tell the truth. The vast majority of snowHeads seem to follow that 'rule of faith', which is why this place is so friendly. If you're saying I haven't told the truth about something then quote the original words and they will be corrected/retracted/apologised for if they weren't true.
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| nbt wrote: |
| I forgot my glasses and didn;t even notice! |
Should have made a list ;-)
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Used to use 2 pairs of goggles. One for bright sunshine and some Oakley O frame Persimon lenses for bad light. Now I use the Oakleys all the time even in spring, it's just less hassle and they live permanently on my helmet.
Regarding helmet use. In Switzerland (and presumably other alpine countries) there is a good range at all price ranges available in supermarkets as well as sports shops. Given the practicality of warmth as well as protection, it is not a difficult decision for a lot of people.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
| The credentials game isn't very snowHeads - it would just lead to unfriendly rivalry. If mistakes are made they can be corrected. I've clearly under-estimated the percentage of helmet users in Switzerland right now. Apologies for that. |
Just how outrageous that was only just struck me. Are you now going to apologise to every snowhead who's posted about their ski trips after labelling them as creating unfriendly rivalry?
Yet again, it begs the question just what you think snowheads is all about. I'm pretty damn sure the rest of us think it's expressively to compare notes about skiing and the stuff we're all doing. Yet apparently you don't 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Well, hopefully it's not outrageous, just friendly. If I go into a room to have a chat with a bunch of friendly people I wouldn't ask them of their 'experience' in any particular thing being discussed - be it politics, flower arranging, or ski bindings. It would probably come out in conversation.
Of course snowHeads is about comparing notes about ski experiences ... and anything to do with snow.
That's what it says on the tin.
"Love Snow ... Live Snow ... Eat Snow"
We don't talk much about eating snow, but my kids were once treated to some sorbet ... fruit syrup mixed into a piste, during a ski lesson in Stowe!
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| michaelc wrote: |
| eng_ch, I got mine in Ochsner Sport, in fact, but the one on Bahnhofstrasse in ZH. I'd heard fairly good things about the shop before and I had a good experience myself buying hiking boots there. |
FWIW I find Ochsner are great if you know what you're after, and you can get some decent deals - I picked up some Leki trigger poles for half price in the sales and was well chuffed. For advice, though, my gut places more reliance on Och Sport (opposite the St Annahof Coop) or even Jelmoli's ski and boot dept. Neither is exactly cheap, but the customer service is good, the staff are knowledgeable ime and in Och most have been there at least 10 years. Och also do a loyalty card - it's not a mega bonus but it's better than a slap in the eye. They also stock a better range of skis imo.
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You know it makes sense.
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
. It would probably come out in conversation.
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That's very much what most of us think I believe, so we're right to assume you're a non-skiing snowhead. Actually going skiing's never come up the 10,000 conversations you've had with us.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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No, you're not right to assume that. I've told you that I've skied from 1959, through 2005, with 4 gap years.
Please let's not go down the credentials corridor.
If I was a snowman artist, or sorbet chef, I'd be welcome here, on the above definition.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I certainly noticed a lot more people wearing helmets in the PdS last week (not exactly known as a hardcore area, like Engelberg, where I saw everyone in helmets), which surprised me.
I now wear goggles all the time: saves constantly changing in variable conditions, hurts my face less if (sorry, when) I stack it, less likely to fall off when I stack it, prevents my eyeballs freezing, produces lovely tanlines so everyone in the office knows what I've been up to... 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
I've been skiing from 1959 through 2005, with four gap years.
Sneering at other people, sarcasm, twisting the truth |
What did you do the 4th year? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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FenlandSkier, noooooooooooooo don't encourage them 
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| David Goldsmith wrote: |
No, you're not right to assume that. I've told you that I've skied from 1959, through 2005, with 4 gap years.
Please let's not go down the credentials corridor.
If I was a snowman artist, or sorbet chef, I'd be welcome here, on the above definition. |
OK, so where did you go in 2005 then? When and for how long?
How hard a question can that be? It's nothing to do with credentials, I just want to know on what basis you're lecturing us on how many people wear helmets or goggles.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I bought a new pair of goggles this year, some persimmon lenses from Oakley. They are more of a low light lense, but I recently wore them for clear blue skies and very sunny days. Although I sometimes squinted a little looking towards the sun, as they are 100% effective at blocking UV I have no worries regarding eye safety. Very comfy!!!
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Scarpa, exactly my experience. A dark tint isn't much use in a white out but the persimmon takes off enough glare to be useable in bright sunlight.
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Adidas LST Silver lens seems to do the trick for me: rose lens with a silver mirror finish. Based on my experience with Bollé rose/silver lenses, I would say that only a complete white-out will be a problem.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Sharkymark,
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Adidas LST Silver lens seems to do the trick for me: rose lens with a silver mirror finish.
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Got some of those with my Adidas sunnies, together with the Space lens and the Orange low light lens, which looks Yellow!
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snowbunny, good aren't they?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Sharkymark,
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snowbunny, good aren't they?
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Very good, I'm pleased with them 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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Is this the point where we have to put in a disclaimer advising against staring at the sun in order to get spaced out scifi skiing experiences
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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C'mon, that
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I bought a fleece for £65 that turned out to be no better than a cheapy. Was I Goggled?
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deserves some appreciation !
ha ha....
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Poster: A snowHead
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Richie_S, I thought so. See 5th post on this page! 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Almost everyone I know personally who skis or boards seriously rather than punter cruising wears goggles. Better for contact wearers, the only option if you don't want prescription sunglasses and the swapping glasses farce whenever indoors, eye protection from low hanging branches, more likely to be retained in a crash, easier to repair with duct tape/sellotape in the event of the above crash, less skin area exposed to frostbite/ski cancer. Minimal fogging if you wear them on your face not your forehead.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I live in Canada Where under 18 at most ski hills is manditory to wear helmets, and now majority of adults are wearing helmets. i work in a ski store where we sells endless numbers of helmets to adults and to kids. safety is a big thing here especially during this freeriding movement.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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redleaf4,
Welcome to Snowheads.
You've put your finger on it. Increasingly, it's becoming required for kids learning to ski to wear helmets (certainly in North America).
This will inevitably convert into routine helmet use by adults, as these kids grow up. - Some parents even start wearing a helmet to deflect complains form their kids.
A parallel, here in England, is the requirement for all children to wear helmets when they play cricket as juniors. Old lags like myself still don't wear one, but about 80% of under 30's do.
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