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SCOTTISH SKI SEASON. HOW BAD?

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How bad has the Scottish ski seas9n been? Is there any skiing left this year?
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
How bad has the Scottish ski seas9n been? Is there any skiing left this year?


Well the title is leading. Happy

I was skiing last week in Glencoe and the top of the hill is okay.

The Scottish snow thread and winter highland are a good source of info.
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
How bad has the Scottish ski seas9n been? Is there any skiing left this year?


5hite. Is about the best word to describe it. We haven't made it up once as the conditions simply haven't warranted it. My sons snow race club have ran a few sessions at Cairngorm but with the call to "use old skis". Glenshee has been very badly hit. They had a few days around half term but nothing more.

All the Scottish Alpine Series races have been cancelled although they are hoping to run the Bairns Bucket and Children's Championship at Nevis in 3 weeks time. Can't see that happening.
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According to NS the lack of snow is due to TM not agreeing to another referendum wink
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It has been one of the worst seasons of all time.

Glenshee is about -90% below-average.
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It's a real shame. Must dreadful for the local economies 9n those areas.
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Hopefully next year is a better season.
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Its the worst in the 7 odd years I've been going, but, to be fair, we were due a bad one. Let's hope next year is better.
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stewart woodward wrote:
According to NS the lack of snow is due to TM not agreeing to another referendum wink

Does politics really need to be dragged into every thread, even if it is maybe an attempt at humor?

I'm another who hasn't skied at all in Scotland this season due to the poor conditions. Nearest to me is Glenshee (1.5hrs away), so that's where I normally ski most but in recent years we've also taken a long weekend trip to Nevis in Feb. Normally I'll have 5 or 6 days in total in a decent year.

On the other hand my son's primary school ski trip got lucky with just about the only half-decently snowy week at Glenshee, although they were pretty much limited to the roadside runs. I feel for all the other school ski trips that didn't get so lucky, possibly a generation of kids who are less likely to become skiers.
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Think it's my first year of not getting a single day on the Scottish slopes since I started in '97. Such a shame as investment confidence had started to build and this will be a sobering reminder of how it can be. To be fair it's been a poo-poo year in the alps as well. The yanks nicked all the snow this year. Hope it's a one off!
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We're 250-300 miles from the Scottish ski areas but have managed 8 days (a mix of ski touring and lift-served) in 5 weekend visits between the end of November and 24 March to Glenshee, Nevis and Cairngorm.

Managed to ski some decent snow on each trip - from fresh tracks ski touring to proper winter cover (packed powder) on others. Only our last trip (Nevis on 24/3) was spring-like and soft - still great though, with skiing back to the top of the gondola.

So by no means a disastrous season in our book wink - and still hopeful of a wintry top up to get some final ski touring in.

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To be fair it's been a poo-poo year in the alps as well 
Really?? Not on our December trips to Val Thorens and Tignes; or our return to those resorts in March; or our Aosta Valley resort tour in January.

It's been more or less business as usual in Espace Killy and Val Thorens this winter Very Happy.
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Really?? Not on our December trips to Val Thorens and Tignes; or our return to those resorts in March; or our Aosta Valley resort tour in January.



Well you have picked two of the highest resorts on in the world there so hardly a benchmark but c'mon you must have your head fully buried in the sand if you think this has been a good year. Resorts without huge snow making infrastructure had pretty much nothing over Xmas and New Year and suffered badly. I was in 3 Valleys from the 14th Jan and whilst we were lucky to arrive during a storm it had been their first for 7 or 8 weeks so there was zero base off-piste below 2300m. Since that cold snap in January it seems to have been pretty much above average temps and very early start to spring. Whilst the mega resorts will have done just fine and I'm sure most had a decent weeks holiday its not been a good year by any measure. As for Scotland, when the 'skier day' numbers come out this will be in the top 3 worst years on record. Love your optimism and glad you had a good season but it's not one we wish to repeat, I'm sure most will agree!
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This year has been terrible compared to recent years, saying otherwise is deluded.

From the Times.

"Scotland’s ski centres have suffered one of their worst seasons, with operators warning that millions of pounds have been lost from a lack of snow.

Hundreds of seasonal jobs have fallen victim to the mild winter. Glenshee, in Aberdeenshire, has been open for only 15 days this season — compared with 60 at the same point last year and 69 in the winter of 2014-15.

Stewart Davidson, its finance director, who has been at Glenshee for 28 years, said that this season was among the worst he had experienced.

“We haven’t had to lay off any permanent staff but we have not taken on 60 to 80 seasonal staff,” he said. “This season has been a non-event. It’s so frustrating, but what can you do?…
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mountainaddict wrote:
We're 250-300 miles from the Scottish ski areas but have managed 8 days (a mix of ski touring and lift-served) in 5 weekend visits between the end of November and 24 March to Glenshee, Nevis and Cairngorm.

Managed to ski some decent snow on each trip - from fresh tracks ski touring to proper winter cover (packed powder) on others. Only our last trip (Nevis on 24/3) was spring-like and soft - still great though, with skiing back to the top of the gondola.

So by no means a disastrous season in our book wink - and still hopeful of a wintry top up to get some final ski touring in.

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To be fair it's been a poo-poo year in the alps as well 
Really?? Not on our December trips to Val Thorens and Tignes; or our return to those resorts in March; or our Aosta Valley resort tour in January.

It's been more or less business as usual in Espace Killy and Val Thorens this winter Very Happy.



Snowfall right across the European Alps was 30-50% below-average this season.

One of the worst seasons for many years.

Only snowmaking saved most resorts from a car crash.
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So by no means a disastrous season
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Really?? Not on our December trips to Val Thorens and Tignes; or our return to those resorts in March; or our Aosta Valley resort tour in January.

It's been more or less business as usual in Espace Killy and Val Thorens this winter Very Happy


I don't know if it's skiing in general or just Snowheads, but that's just the sort of toss that I'd expect from some people on here. That huge boasting thing telling everyone how great/lucky they are and that actually everything is completely rosy. Disagreeing with them is difficult since doing so implies somehow that you're not as awesome/lucky as they are.

I usually associate it with people who have houses in resort and are desperate to tell the world how great they/their houses/their resorts are.

You'd get fully called on it on most sites, but somehow Snowheads seem to tolerate it.
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I'm reminded of the seminal book on the subject: "Skiing in Scotland" by Heather Bashing
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Christ! I'm not sure that my post (which only reflected my tell-it-as-it-was take on snow in the places I skied....) warranted responses that degenerated into sheer abuse...

Ta for that.
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I'm in Avoriaz this week with the kids and I am grateful that I am that high. There is plenty of snow on most of the runs above the resort but those below are fading fast. Our bus driver was saying that it has snowed only 3 times in Morzine this year and has been considered one of the worst winters in a long time.
My heart says that this is just a bad run (for Europe and Scotland) but my head says that this is likely to happen more in the future.
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@lionrampant, we really feel for those involved in seasonal sport when the snow fails - our main connections are with CH but feel for those in the Scottish industry. We have had an enjoyable and rewarding season but it has been terrible in respect of snow cover - I will be interested to see the stats when they come out in May. Our friends who own a ski school in CH are beginning to invest in mountain biking instruction and events as a means of offsetting changing income from winter sports. With record temps around the world last year, the year before and in the first months of this year, it all feels a bit structural...
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I`ve got a Nevis season pass and i haven`t used it once. Terrible season. Only decent days they had snow i was either working or away in the Alps.
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lionrampant wrote:

My heart says that this is just a bad run (for Europe and Scotland) but my head says that this is likely to happen more in the future.


Think you've got the heart and the head the wrong way round there, unless you know something the rest of us don't?
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My heart says that this is just a bad run (for Europe and Scotland) but my head says that this is likely to happen more in the future.






Think you've got the heart and the head the wrong way round there, unless you know something the rest of us don't?


Yea I'd agree its been a pretty good decade for Scotland so far, particularly for the west coast. In fact, too much snow has been an issue on several occasions over the last few years resulting in labour/resource intensive digging out of drag lifts and funiculars just to get the terrain open. A bad year or two in the mix has always been a feature of Scottish snow sports so nothing new and no cause for concern providing the centres have stashed enough cash to keep afloat.
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lionrampant wrote:
I'm in Avoriaz this week with the kids and I am grateful that I am that high. There is plenty of snow on most of the runs above the resort but those below are fading fast. Our bus driver was saying that it has snowed only 3 times in Morzine this year and has been considered one of the worst winters in a long time.
My heart says that this is just a bad run (for Europe and Scotland) but my head says that this is likely to happen more in the future.



It is already happening.

Snowfall across the European Alps has declined 10-30% in the past 40 years.
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I think the thing that will keep Scottish skiing going is the spirit of those who ski there. I've seen people skiing in conditions that would deter polar explorers - in kilts.
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cameronphillips2000 wrote:
I think the thing that will keep Scottish skiing going is the spirit of those who ski there. I've seen people skiing in conditions that would deter polar explorers - in kilts.


Yes I've heard it can get a bit windy around the Trossachs....

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