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Where next for the Botting family?

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Welcome to the snowheads, David, Di, Daniel, James, Matthew, Emma and Luke (not necessarily in order of seniority.)

We shared a chalet last week and I undertook to introduce them. Please make them welcome when they appear.

They enjoyed the chalet life and it was obviously a real holiday for mother of 5, Di who had a break from cooking etc. Dad David got hooked and will want to go again. James like his elder brothers went to the darkside, but may not be lost forever. He was doing fine with his board anyway. Emma was a natural and skied really well. Young Luke enjoyed it least, most probably because he was in a French speaking ski-school group.

After Arc 2000, where next? The priorities, I would think, would be good chalet and plenty of cruisy blues with the odd steep red for Emma and James.

Any ideas for the perfect week for them, maybe next new year week?
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Andorra sounds like it'd be about right.
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Cervinia?

It would also have the advantage that Luke wouldn't be in a French speaking ski-school group, again.
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Hardly any chalets in Andorra - only a few in Soldeu/ El Tarter

Id say Alpe D'huez
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Chris Bish, sorry we missed each other last week.
For the Bottings, you state the priorities as: good chalet, plenty of cruisy blues, the odd steep red for Emma and James.
Well, there is of course only one place: La Plagne.
It is not clear how old the children are. If many under 12 I suggest Chalet Mont Blanc in Montchavin with Ski Esprit. If older, then stay at Montagnettes or Les Balcons in Belle Plagne. I have also heard good reports of Mark Warner and Club Med in Plagne Centre, but no personal experience.
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Jonpim, also sad to have missed you, but love of 3V and kids in tow mean we will perhaps meet there next February half term.
Only Luke is Esprit age. The others are "grown up" kids. I'm hoping they will soon appear and join in this discussion for themselves.

As for La Plagne, see Jon Bish's quoted comments elsewhere on this site. I think La Plagne would be a good choice personally, though it might be considered bland by many. Probably be good at New Year too....
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I was going to suggest Cervinia, but skanky, beat me to it. Lots of easy cruising, good for confidence building & the link over to Zermatt for a bit of "interest". There is a Club Med & a couple of clubhotel style options pretty close to the cable car.
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Chris Bish, La Plagne or 3 valleys for the second holiday and here in Les Deux Alpes for the year after. Chalets are fewer here, but there are some nice ones if you browse. We have less cruising but more interesting ski-ing! snowHead
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I've moved this back up because I know the Bottings have been lurking.

Emma's question to me via email was "Are all those places in France?"

Can we have lots of people saying "join in and post" to them, please. I really think we need more beginners on this board so we can show off our "expertise"!!! rolling eyes
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Cervinia's in Italy, under the Matterhorn (Mont Cervinia in Italy).
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Chris Bish,
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Emma's question to me via email was "Are all those places in France?"

Come on Chris, you know the answer to that one!

Join in and post, the Bottings, just to stop him nagging at us, and showing off all his "expertise" Exclamation
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maggi, AAArgh you sussed me. I don't have much of it. It was in quote marks!

Thanks for the contribution though.
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Chris, what about La Rosiere 1850, it's the sunny slopes you see as you look across the valley from Arc 2000. I'm biased because we've got a Chalet there but Masque, Ice Queen, RachelQ, Mark Hunter (M'sieur le Bronze) & famille have all skiied there and can give you unbiased feedback. It's linked with La Thuile in Italy, good ski schools and enough apres ski to keep teenagers happy. There are also one or two nice chalets.
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Chris Bish, Having just been there, I'd suggest La Rosiere with Ski Espirit. The Chalet Braconnier sounds perfect - ski in ski out and right next to the nursery slopes and ski school for Luke. The resort is quite compact and has a good deal of charm. The ski=ing is great for beginner improvers up to intermediate, whilst there are a few runs catering to more advanced skiers and always the option to pop over into Italy for more variety/challenges.

The whole place has a "safe" feel about it, and the area isn't so large that younger members of the family can go off and get lost too easily.

If your friends wish to steer clear of package deals, get in touch with David@Trax - his place, Le Mouflon, is charming with some stunning views. Smile
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I dont know about the chalet side, but portes de soleil (Avoriaz) or
Grand Massif (Flaine) are quite cruisy with nice opportunities for gently
extending yourself. They might not be high enough for new year though...
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A big welcome to the Bottings!
Are u lurking as Guests or have u registered - it really is worth registering as once you have 'introduced yourselves' so to speak all the 'A snowHeads' magically become real people and it's all really very friendly - a bit like a chalet with 500 guests Shocked

I'd say La Plagne in answer to the question above and I'd qualify the 3V's suggestion with Courchevel 1650 as a good spot given the criteria.
Val-T and Courch 1850 would also fit the bill but tend to be a little more expensive and most of the on-snow benefits they provide beyond L-P and 1650 are more at the advanced end of the spectrum.
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A big welcome to the Bottings!
Are u lurking as Guests or have u registered - it really is worth registering as once you have 'introduced yourselves' so to speak all the 'A snowHeads' magically become real people and it's all really very friendly - a bit like a chalet with 500 guests Shocked


Hi. Just signed on! Thanks for all the suggestions - and the welcome. Looking forward to getting to know the 500 chalet guests, not so sure about the smell of 500 pairs of skiing socks at the end of a long day!! Very Happy
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Di Botting, welcome to Snowheads, what a horrible thought!!! Shocked
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Di Botting, welcome to snowHeads. Many of us wash our skiing socks at least once a week, so you shouldn't find it too unpleasant.
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Welcome to snowHeads, Di snowHead

500 guests would require the mother of boot rooms...
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I feel sory for the chalet maid, all that cake.
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Jonpim wrote:
Di Botting, welcome to snowHeads. Many of us wash our skiing socks at least once a week, so you shouldn't find it too unpleasant.


That reminds me...(rushes off).......(rushes back) Welcome Di!....(rushes off again)....
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Di Botting, Welcome Di.... snowHead Glad you all enjoyed your visit to Les Arcs, still very skiable up at Arc 2000 where you were based, but just three days to go 'til the resort closes now. Perhaps you'll recognise some of the places in the photographs taken around the resort, although quite a few were right up the top - for a future trip perhaps! As well as the photos on this page, where I think you'll recognise a couple of people....
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Memories......... it seems like an age away, but it was great to look at the photos of Arc 2000 and 1950 (when will the building work be completed?). We have copies of Chris's photos on our computer, as well as our own picture gallery (taken mainly on the nursery slopes).
My knee is still giving me some trouble - how long does it take for a sprained ligament to stop hurting?
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Thanks for posting the pictures Pete.
BTW Di I have to say Jon's ski socks are in a class of their own as far as aroma is concerned. Most are nothing like that bad.

Nice to see you on here.
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David@traxvax, I've never been to La Ros, but I can see the appeal. Is it true you can get a taste of Italian skiing quite easily?

I found it really exciting to ski from Italy to Switzerland in Cervinia.
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Chris, very easy, literally 2 chairs and a drag away from the village centre. The only time the link is closed is because of bad weather, usually high winds. The drag follows the route of the Col de Petite San Bernard and it's pretty high and exposed. Last week there was over 3 metres of snow on the Col, riding the drag we could reach up to touch the cable and the snow piled against the gable end of the Hospice reached the 3rd floor level. There's some great skiing in Italy, and even in peak times it's not too busy. Most of the visitors to La Thuile, appear to prefer skiing on the slopes around the gondola station leaving the San Bernadino and Fourclaz sectors fairly empty and that's where the best conditions are often found. We were still skiing on fresh powder there last Thurs.
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DAvid,must make a return visit to La Ros sometime.
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BTW Di I have to say Jon's ski socks are in a class of their own as far as aroma is concerned. Most are nothing like that bad.

Who said anything about Jon's ski socks?!?! With a family of 4 boys (+ dad) I've got thru 2 bottles of extra perfumed fabric softener in my post-ski washing! Madeye-Smiley
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Di Botting, as mother of 2 boys, you have my deepest sympathies.
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I think Emma should get a mention at this point. As the only girl in the family and the best skier she needs recognition. And she skied the Arandliere red in her first week on snow. Respect!
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The only reason Emma wasn't mentioned before was because, being a girl, for her the smelly sock problem doesn't exist. I'd also remind you that I happen to be female too - we say, in our family, that it takes the 5 boys to cope with the 2 girls!
However, I do agree. Emma was a complete star on skis and is already nagging us about our next skiing holiday (James is a trusty ally). She is very keen to go to Italy next. Any ideas? Question
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Di Botting: 6 kids! I am sure Emma is a marvel on skis, but you the one who deserves Respect.
Ideas for Italy. Take a look at La Thuile. Lots of info on this site already. I skied there for the first time this March, and want to go back. As our guide said: "Excellent ski, not so good apres ski". It's in the Aosta valley, so day trips to Courmayeur and nearby resorts easy. It links with La Rosiere in France. Bon Ski.
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Thanks Jonpim. Actually, David is included in the "boys" so I only have 5 kids. What am I saying - ONLY?!
Just to clarify: we're not so very bothered about apres ski - for us beginners, that usually means sleep!!! What's the accommodation there? Are there chalets? I must confess to being something of a chalet person, especially if the food's as good as it was in Arcs, and the family enjoyed the informality of chalet life too.
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Cervinia's in Italy - also in (or just off) the Valle d'Aosta.
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SorryDi Botting, don't know about accommodation in La Thuile. I was staying at Courmayeur.
I don't think the Italians do chalets.
If they do, I am sure snowHeads will correct me.
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Rumour has it you are going to Italy.... any details?
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Crystal (and others?) do a sort chalet/apartment system in Cervinia - and probably elsewhere, but I've not looked into it at other Italian resprts. You might find some apartments that are available independently as (for example) in Courmayeur there are a lot of holiday apartments, which may be rented out when the owners aren't using them - however judging by the maount of work my brother-in-law has to do on the central heating systems at peak times, it seems a lot of them are shut down over the months the owners aren't there.

I can ask my sister what the apartment rental situation is in Courmayeur, if anyone wants.

Another Italian resort I would suggest looking at is Pila, which again is Valle d'Aosta (can actually be accessed by gondola from Aosta). It's not as snow sure as Cervinia, but it's quite a nice resort (though I've only been for a day's skiing).

I'm sure Matteo has the best recommendations for Italy, though.
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