 Poster: A snowHead
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I brought a new pair of skis from ski Bartlett last spring. They arrived with bindings attached.
I'm not starting to wonder if they need waxing before I use them
I was then looking into ski paste wax as it's easy to apply! Is this wax any good or worth sending them to a shop to do properly
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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You should wax them with a proper waxing iron using a good general purpose wax. New skis come from the factory with only transport wax and in order to give the bases the best protection you should really wax them.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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When you ask on a forum full of people obsessed with sking you will invariably get the response that you should wax and sharpen your skis all the time. However, plenty of people buy skis and don't do a thing to them for years.
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@jason123, The wax that is applied by the manufacturers its more of a storage wax to stop the base drying out.
Its applied by machine and will wear off very quickly. A good hot wax with an iron will have you gliding for much longer.
IMO paste wax are a waste of money.
The combination is a good hot wax and then applied some Zardoz when your out there
But as @Themasterpiece, said some people just ski them 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Themasterpiece wrote: |
| When you ask on a forum full of people obsessed with sking you will invariably get the response that you should wax and sharpen your skis all the time. However, plenty of people buy skis and don't do a thing to them for years. |
I'm guilty of this much of the time - then the snow hardens and I realise I can't hold an edge for toffee or the snow softens and the people I'm skiing with go shooting past me on the flat while I'm left polling.
Yes, there's a mid range where the snow's pretty cold but not hard and there, you can ski with any old crap on your feet. But then, there are people who only ski, for example, 'when it's not too icy' and for these people, a decent edge on their ski could shift their perception of how icy things are to the point that it doubles or triples their ski time. Similarly, skiing on skis that haven't been waxed for ages is more tiring: in some conditions very much more tiring and again, well prepped kit could extend this person's ski day by hours, potentially.
...and yes, I know, at the other end of the spectrum, there are instructors etc who never wax or edge their skis but with their expertise and fitness and in the context in which they're skiing most of the time, they've the 'headroom' to compensate without significantly impacting their [snowplough] performance.
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It sounds like you might have bought these online? If you've not had a tech look at them it might be worth running them into a shop anyway (with your boots) to check the bindings have been set up correctly for your boots in terms of forward pressure/toe height adjustments (you need the boots to do that properly).
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When you ask on a forum full of people obsessed with sking you will invariably get the response that you should wax and sharpen your skis all the time. However, plenty of people buy skis and don't do a thing to them for years.
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I used a tea-light purchased from Ikea on my pair of GS skis and my son's twinnies.
Just rubbed it on... blew a bit of hot air at it (from a hairdryer....gfaw... gfaw...!!) and then scraped any excess off with a plastic ruler I had lying about... then a bit of brillo pad that I found round the back of the boiler.
Sorted!
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I brought a new pair of skis from ski Bartlett last spring. They arrived with bindings attached.
I'm not starting to wonder if they need waxing before I use them
I was then looking into ski paste wax as it's easy to apply! Is this wax any good or worth sending them to a shop to do properly
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After spending countless winters working in French ski shops I would recommend getting them waxed. This is because the factory wax only lasts a few runs and then they become dry. I know a lot of people ski on un-waxed/dry skis, but it depends how much you care about your skis and how fast you want them to go. If it's a bad snow day having unwaxed skis can literally bring you to a stand still, forcing you to pole through-while people with waxed skis effortlessly glide past.
The ski paste you mentioned is not really worth using because that too only lasts a run to two. Give it a hot wax, and if you really care for your skis give them a few coats to make sure the wax really gets into the base.
Another tip: (On new skis) If you're a recreational skier it's worth checking to see if the tips and tails have been de-tuned, otherwise you may find them a bit grabby in the turns.
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| Happyskitech wrote: |
Another tip: (On new skis) If you're a recreational skier it's worth checking to see if the tips and tails have been de-tuned, otherwise you may find them a bit grabby in the turns. |
I've seen conflicting advice on that from ski techs. There is a view that detuning isn't necessary on modern shaped skis.
Here's what @spyderjon's site has to say on the subject
http://www.thepisteoffice.com/index.php/tuning-guide/6-detuning.html
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Thu 17-11-16 22:41; edited 2 times in total
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Having just been for a ski tuning session at The Piste Office this makes perfect sense. Detuning isn't necessary on modern skis. Why would you tune a ski edge then offer to take off some of tune for less control?
There is a lot of conflicting advice out there but I'll go with the practical explanation Jon gave.
(Great course by the way, if anyone was was thinking of it).
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I mostly agree with what is said in the article. Yes it is preferable to bevel the base edge so that you do not catch your tips or tails (or find them grabby), but most people do not have a base edge bevelling tool/file, let alone know how to use one. So for most people, a light de-tune with a gummy stone would be more than sufficient.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I'd say someone who hasn't got the ability to control a tuned tip or tail of their skis shouldn't really go near an edge file. Instead, they should enjoy renting for a couple more holidays and enjoy their lessons!
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| Happyskitech wrote: |
I mostly agree with what is said in the article. Yes it is preferable to bevel the base edge so that you do not catch your tips or tails (or find them grabby), but most people do not have a base edge bevelling tool/file, let alone know how to use one. So for most people, a light de-tune with a gummy stone would be more than sufficient. |
If you haven't had a base grind then why are you touching your base edges?
If you've had a grind and you want to set your own base edges then buy a file guide
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You know it makes sense.
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@flangesax, ....TROLL....!!!!
Spotted at 1000m....
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@valais2, nah... 10 years from living out here... 2 kids skiing from age 2... one of the racing and in the local club.
Nothing i've written is untruthful from my plain and somewhat simple perspective. I'm not trolling.... just being honest really.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@flangesax,
I can't believe you bothered to faff about with hot air on your tea light 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@musher, of course!!!... I should have just lit the second one and used the flame!!! I'll do that next time as the hairdryer needs to go back into a guest room!
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