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Why oh why can't we have decent websites for ski areas?

 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
Not too much to ask?

Surely?

But patently it is. They are all crap.
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Jungfrau Region website. It's like going back to 1995.

http://www.jungfrau.ch
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
I think that depends where precisely you were in 1995. Here is where they were:
https://web.archive.org/web/19970105120728/http://www.jungfrau.ch/
Some some quite considerable progress, then.

The current site is in https://typo3.org/, not something I've come across.

I'm no fan, but I got to a decent (no flashing garbage on it) piste map in two clicks, which is better than most resort websites I'd say. Perhaps that would be a useful metric to compare these... but then it depends what people want to find. Me: piste map/ ticket price/ opening dates and hours.

You tend to find better design when the website is a "front door" for the business, which in this case may not actually be the case. It's possible, for example, that people decide where they want to go, then use the website for reassurance, in which case having a great site may not be a huge priority. Perhaps they "shop around" via web forums (!) or tour operator brochures.

And then what people think is good is quite varied. Technical people, for example used to think "valid" markup meant "good", where as businesses and users would not see than as remotely important.
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@philwig, Also, which lifts and pistes are open.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Drammeister wrote:
@philwig, Also, which lifts and pistes are open.
http://www.skiplan.com/stations-temps-reel/
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@philwig, my gripe today was the ridiculously crap "interactive" map from the Grand Massif that simply will not load on my iPad Air2.

And no proper dates.

Etc.
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Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
rob@rar wrote:
Drammeister wrote:
@philwig, Also, which lifts and pistes are open.
http://www.skiplan.com/stations-temps-reel/


Thanks for the link; I always have to try and work out what the skiplan address for is for each ski resort.

It also goes to prove the OP's point that you have to go to a third party site to see decent lift and piste opening info.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
I think there are lots of websites out there which dont fulfill the requirements of the people who want to use them.
Not just for Ski Resorts but for just about anything.

I have the feeling that many web designers forget about what the user wants to find there, rather than show off their fancy artistic abilities.

You know what I mean.
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@DrLawn, the web designer is not the client. You can make suggestions and maybe steer the project in a particular direction, but ultimately it is down to the people paying for it, who often have their own ideas rolling eyes Personally, I'm an "information first" type of person – there is no point having a flashy website if it won't load on a phone because the bloat is too big. That visitor has gone.

And yes, a lot of resort websites are terrible at actually supplying useful information in a way that you can find it.
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@under a new name, www.bergfex.com is my go to for weather, piste maps, resort details (opening dates etc).
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@AthersT, cheers, I don't really need the info these days, but keep finding instances of crap site building - usually when checking facts before posting on here snowHead
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Some resort sites are useful-ish. The worst culprits that I've seen are the Portes du Soleil ones. Especially the stupid annoying autoplaying background music. Thought that music tag went out of fashion when the likes of geocities became history!
The Austrian sites I've visited do actually have some information (although admittedly one appears to be stuck in about 1999).

You're not supposed to "use" things these days. You're supposed to "experience" them. I experience such flashturbation by hitting the close page or back button.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
philwig wrote:


The current site is in https://typo3.org/, not something I've come across.


Very widely used in Switzerland, I believe the Typo3 association is based there. It is a PHP based CMS. Very flexible for building websites but suffers usual PHP issues.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Of the 1 billion websites on the entire planet, only 1 is truly great. It is called Google.

There are about ~100 that are very good, like Amazon or Alibaba.

The remaining ~99% are average or cr*p.

Developer nerds rarely understand normal people's usage behavior, while developer bosses tend to overload sites with everything to stop everyone whining when that little button or image they love is not included.

Finding a decent ski resort website is rare.
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