Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,
Has anyone bought a ski helmet from the chinese website aliexpress.com? I have bought lots of stuff from there no problem so I'm not worried about the actual website I'm wondering about the quality of the helmets they sell
Ive found out there are three current international standards (ASTM F2040, CEN 1077, Snell RS-9 and the Moon brand ones say they are CEN 1077 but someone who bought one said it was easy to dent the outer part of it, so that doesnt sound too good
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@fredbob, Leaving aside the certification, are you more concerned about the price or style of the helmets available? You should be able to pick up plenty of discounted helmets with European certification from European websites for £40-60.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The certification is worthless and doesn't test for anything approaching real life.
If you're buying a helmet you're obviously doing so to protect yourself, so either buy from a reputable brand (Sweet, POC) or do enough research into materials and design so that you can recognise which of the cheap Chinese copies are just cheap copies of the real thing and not something cheap that looks like the real thing.
And then feel bad about ripping off the brand that did all the R&D.
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Need to be careful with chinese stuff. A lot of lifting / metal based product coming into the uk with BSEN and CE marks that they call their company logo (they slightly adjust the shape) and get away with it!!
Personally when it comes to your head, you only have one so spend the money - that is chose the right product for you.
Besides how are you planning to try a helmet on to ensure it fits - its a long old trip to china......
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@PaulC1984, Why not combine the two, and you can ski fast in a whiteout
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Personally I would never buy a helmet online, I think you need to see and try them on first hand.
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Hahaha love that helmet!!!
Yeah I was a little concerned about the safety mark and the build quality etc, but the branded stuff is made in China as well so there must be similar quality ones
and the trying on is kind of a problem from China, but its going to be a problem anyway as there arent any snow gear shops near me
Think I'll carry on looking, thanks everyone
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I'd forgotten about Decathlon, I presume their helmets should be all certified and good?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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fredbob wrote: |
Hi,
Has anyone bought a ski helmet from the chinese website aliexpress.com? I have bought lots of stuff from there no problem so I'm not worried about the actual website I'm wondering about the quality of the helmets they sell
Ive found out there are three current international standards (ASTM F2040, CEN 1077, Snell RS-9 and the Moon brand ones say they are CEN 1077 but someone who bought one said it was easy to dent the outer part of it, so that doesnt sound too good
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CEN is NOT CE. It looks similar to the CE logo (whether deliberately or not) but is no where near the same standard. Don't touch with a barge pole.
Confusingly there is actually an EU CEN (ELEC) standard as well.
The easy way to tell the difference is this.
Think of the C as a semicircle, in your head, complete the circle. The E then has a part that overlaps with the right hand side of the circle.
The fake CE has an E that is within the imaginary circle.
http://www.icomuk.co.uk/News_Article/3794/17103/
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It was this page https://www.skicanada.org/safety/how-to-choose-a-helmet/ where I read about the CEN 1077
and just found this here http://www.xsportsprotective.com/blogs/news/131767427-helmet-safety-standards-list
CE marking indicates that a helmet fulfills the requirements in the European Economic Community (EEC) Directive, 89/686/EEC. This is a mandatory directive, thus helmets must be CE-marked if they are to be sold anywhere in Europe. Since 1994, SP Technical Research Institute of Sweden has been a Notified Body entitled to perform and certify tests for CE-marking. Among the CE markings for action sports helmets are:
EN CE 1077 Ski helmets
EN CE 1078 Bicycle helmets
EN CE 1080 Impact protection helmets for young children
I presume CEN 1077 is just a different way of writing EN CE 1077
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Loads of Smiths helmets on Sport Pursuit at the moment.
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