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Thoughts?
The current Mantra is squirrelly, unstable and downright unpleasant.
We got on OK with the Bonafide but they were a bit un-lively.
I am reading good things about Nordica Enforcer, both 93 and 100.
Both of us about 5'6" and me about 62 kgs, herself a bit lighter. Both Skied about 40-45 years, done seasons, raced a wee bit. Ski anything swiftly and (I would hope) gracefully.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Stormrider 95
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@spyderjon, good shout. Now, where to test early season ...?
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| Dave of the Marmottes wrote: |
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No metal in the Whitedots so not gnar enough for the wee laddie 
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Yeah but he's getting on a bit....
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@Haggis_Trap, we tried the Bonafides (back to back vs Mantras as it happened) and they were generally fine, but just a bit ummmh, lifeless.
Not to say they weren't a good ski - and very confidence inspiring, i.e. going straight up to maximum warp as soon as setting off (it was a quiet, well groomed sort of day).
Just not playful the way our Mantras were.
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Kendo ? Folks last season were saying its the new Mantra - also like rocking horse pooh to get in Utah shops, where as they had racks full of Mantras.
Just a thought to try. I do like mine  and hated the Mantra so much I took em back.
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| under a new name wrote: |
Thoughts?
The current Mantra is squirrelly, unstable and downright unpleasant.
We got on OK with the Bonafide but they were a bit un-lively.
I am reading good things about Nordica Enforcer, both 93 and 100.
Both of us about 5'6" and me about 62 kgs, herself a bit lighter. Both Skied about 40-45 years, done seasons, raced a wee bit. Ski anything swiftly and (I would hope) gracefully. |
What about the Volkl 90eight? I haven't skied them and don't know they compare with the revised Mantra (they do have some camber, unlike the Mantras)), but I've read some good comments.
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@under a new name, I don't know what lengths you prefer, but these may be of interest...
http://www.downskis.com/shop/showdown-95-2016
Never skied them, but I understand the construction is the same as my CD114s from last season. Powerful, smooth and silky.
There's also a 202cm version if you've been missing the feel of your DH boards
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202cm!!
I have never had the chance/ Abilty.
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@under a new name, try the Whitedot r108, skis like a Mantra but much lighter. We ski the carbon but the trad is maybe better if you like tge Mantra. I had 3 pairs of Mantras and at the time rated them but really like the WD's. The latter Mantras weren't great IMO, moved over to WD a few years ago and I don't miss the Mantras one bit.
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You know it makes sense.
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Bones, the Kendo is slimmer and I believe equally de-powered compared to previous.
@clarky999, @Markymark29, interesting suggestions , I think I know where I can demo some WDs. Not so sure about the Downs.
I don't need 202s, my 203 SGs are quite adequate thank you.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@under a new name, There's Whitedot demo skis in Cham at Echobase. The Ranger referred to above has had a name change and is also available in a narrower width underoot so it's the R.98 (as Dave mentioned above) or the R.108. Both are available in either a traditional or Carbonlite construction. The CL has more pop/rebound and the trad is about as damp as you can get for a non metal lay-up - but neither as as punchy as your Mantra.
For your stats & short BSL when demo'ing the R.108 move the bindings forward about 15-20mm in front of the FR line. The R.98 will be spot on on the FR line.
Modern designs with less camber/tip rocker have moved against you hence your dislike of the later Mantra's. It's going to be hard to find a mid fat old style Mantra type ski these days as that design/constructuon is only really available in piste skis.
Stormrider 95 is probably the nearest but even that has been tamed compared to a few years ago.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@spyderjon, thanks, I knew Jim had WDs but not sure of models. I'll take ´em for a spin 
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@spyderjon,
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| It's going to be hard to find a mid fat old style Mantra type ski these days as that design/constructuon is only really available in piste skis |
Like Völkl RTM 81 or 84? I only ask because I also have a pair of 2010 Mantras, and am now spending almost all my time on and off piste on the RTMs, which I find to be just as good in Euro-pow and better on piste. Of course they are rockered, so it's hard to compare directly.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@under a new name, for the Downs, one of the guys in based in Geneva (Carouges). I met him in a pub for a drink once to have a look at his skis  Picked them up from him at the start of the winter too so I could avoid delivery and take them straight to the PSB.
Drop them an email and ask about test options, they might have something available.
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May not have all the qualities you are after (especially if you like a mid to long radius) but if calling into Echobase have some fun by giving the WD Preachers a go. Fat ski with big camber and masses of pop
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@spyderjon, your comment about design moving against me resonates. And I am not the only one - I know quite a few people with my sort of history who don't appreciate the - shall we say - dumbing down of skis.
Thanks, @fixx.
Biggest problem of course, is time. At the right time.
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| under a new name wrote: |
@clarky999, @Markymark29, interesting suggestions , I think I know where I can demo some WDs. Not so sure about the Downs.
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In previous years I think Down have had demos at a shop called Concept (or something like that) in Cham, but by the time they'd have the new skis the pre-sale would be over and they'd be €150 more expensive.
But you're in Geneva right? Gregor (Down cofounder) lives there too, so may have prototypes or something you could take a look at. His email is gregor AT downskis.com if you're interested.
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@clarky999, my brother in law works in Concept and knows very well what we like and how we ski, I'm pretty sure he'd have suggested them if he thought we'd approve...
I had a vague feeling I had seen some there.
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@under a new name, understood, but this is the first narrower ski they've made that isn't touring specific (and the 2nd year using metal). I wouldn't have recommended their previous skis to you either.
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Ah, I see. Interesting. I shall ask when I next get around to talking skis with him.
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Down skis were only in Concept for 1 season, they don't have a deal with them anymore.
I heard it was something to do with Concept not liking the promos Down were occasionally running through their own website, which Concept couldn't match. But that was a couple of years ago, and my time in Chamonix normally also involves decent quantities of alcohol (  ) so memory might not be too reliable.
@clarky999, yep, it was Gregor I always met, top guy.
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@fixx, that would explain my vague memories of Down at CP. The single season thing, not the alcohol. Obviously. 
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