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0.25% its not like the rate you boys offer Greece to help them out.
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The Bank of England have raised interest rates to 0.50% with seven of the nine-person Monetary Policy Committee voting for such a move.
However, the Pound has promptly plunged on the outcome, confirming our warnings that there might be a "sell the fact" reaction to the well-signposted move.
Markets might have focussed on warnings contained in the statement that "all members agree that any future increases in Bank Rate would be expected to be at a gradual pace and to a limited extent."
"With the slack in the economy now significantly reduced and sluggish business investment limiting the economy’s output potential, even a moderate rate of growth has the potential to generate core inflation in the medium and the long term. As previously communicated, the BoE expects further interest rate increases to occur at a gradual pace and to a limited extent," says Shileh Shah, Bond Strategist at Investec Wealth & Investment.
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| LaForet wrote: |
| The key takeaway is that this is the first time in a long while that more than two of the MPC members are seriously discussing a rate rise. That's enough to make it a real possibility. If it does, it will be a rise of 0.25% and then a wait to see how this affects the market. The Bank will not increase rates more than 0.25% at a time. |
Remember, you heard it some weeks ago back on Page 30 (27.9.17) here on Snowheads ....
For the full prediction and analysis, see http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=126155&start=1160
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0.25%, not exactly going to kill us is it?
I just paid the skiing holiday today - maybe I should have held back as I will be really worried that my spending money will buy me a few cents less............
Or.......who cares ?
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@stanton, So you don't post for 5 days as the pound soared (to match your hyperbole of plunged) and the rate is exactly the same as it was this time last week. If you wish to be taken seriously you will have to argue on a more even handed basis.
The raise in interest rates was inevitable, the UK economy emerged from the massive economic downturn before Europe. As masters of our own destiny on matters economic we have avoided the massive social problems caused by a one size fits all EU economic policy that the S Euro nations suffered.
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| chocksaway wrote: |
| @stanton you will have to argue on a more even handed basis. |
He can't - hand 2 is reserved for 'other' tasks 
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The interest rate rise was suppose to correct the fall but its already been factored in by the markets ..
So the interest rate rise has done nothing for the Pound strength.
The NEXT two UK Interest Rate rises could be damaging allround.
Markets are forecasting a fall not a recovery due to the strength of the Euro Economy.
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@stanton, According to your predictions parity should already have happened! Tw#t!
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| chocksaway wrote: |
The raise in interest rates was inevitable, the UK economy emerged from the massive economic downturn before Europe. As masters of our own destiny on matters economic we have avoided the massive social problems caused by a one size fits all EU economic policy that the S Euro nations suffered. |
Chocks I would be very careful about comparing UK growth the the EU. The EU is doing much better than the UK this year.
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@chocksaway,
Can you the Spot the Trend??
Trend going back years :
The UK did have high growth but has been in steady decline
The rest of the Eurozone has been gradually growing and has over taken the UK and out pacing !!
This is the latest data Q3 2017
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@Stantroll, but that graph show Eurozone vs UK.
It would be interesting to see the 27 individual states vs UK..... I bet there's some better, some worse 
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You know it makes sense.
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@martinm, but we are talking about skiing being more expensive & i think most UK folks ski in the Eurozone
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| stanton wrote: |
| @martinm, but we are talking about skiing being more expensive & i think most UK folks ski in the Eurozone |
But your fkin chart was about GDP, not skiing, you total tw@t.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@martinm, you dont have to reply.. i mean really dont ..
Your ski holiday will be more expensive
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| stanton wrote: |
@martinm, you dont have to reply.. i mean really dont ..
Your ski holiday will be more expensive |
Still selling the snake oil Stanton?
What your considerable intellect cannot fathom is the conundrum that UK skiers have XGBP to spend on skiing, that exchanges to YEUR on whatever dangly bits exchange rate that exists at ZTime.
That will be the same for any movement in exchange rates.
Personally (micro-effect) I expect to spend LESS in resort because of the pound's relative value. AND the cumulative (macro-effect) of UK skiers spending less in ski resorts will do nothing other than mean increased cost-cutting by the TO's before Xmas!
My advise .......................... wait for the bargains.
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| stanton wrote: |
@martinm
Your ski holiday will be more expensive |
It maybe but I consider myself well off.
And you chart is still about GDP, not the price of skiing 
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@bar shaker, Happy with that, I was making a point about economic cycles over the long term, as Stanton's graph clearly demonstrates the UK economy was growing well whilst the EU one was still shrinking, so they have some distance to cover to catch up. Also as a lot of that growth happens in a few large strong economies it disguises how bad it was in some countries exacerbated by their inability to control interest rates, the social impact of the global slump would have been a lot more palatable if local currencies could have devalued as would have happened in the days of the Lira, Peseta, Drachma, etc.
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The BBC says:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41846637
"....The expectation is that rates will rise to just 1%, in two increases of 0.25%, one next year and one in 2020...."
yet the FT yield curve today for gilts is 0.47% over one year, 0.45% over 2 years, 0.5% over 3 years, and 0.55% over 4 years.
https://markets.ft.com/data/bonds
This means the market expects the bank rate to be 0.5% for 3 years, with a 0.25% rise in 2020.
I do not know who is right, but I reckon the latter is closer to reality than the former.
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Everyone should Ski in Switzerland. Its cheaper this year than last!
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+1 for Switzerland - and if you're under-25 then the Annual Pass for 12 months in the 4 Valleys is only CHF 399 ........................ so you can come back in the summer as well.
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Well sin CE I went on the EOSB in 2017 and booked for the EOSB 2018 here is a comparison.
EOSB +£20
Flights -£80
Hotel in GVA -£18
Taxi to and from airport + £5
So a whopping £73 cheaper
Then factor in spending etc and the cost of food and drink at the EOSB and even if it was £23 more due to currency changes it will probably be about £50 cheaper.
My other ski holiday is about the same in total cost, and this year instead of getting a Ford Focus we have a Land Rover Discovery for a week. So for me it is cheaper overall. Note. I DIY on my ski holidays of use this wonderful site to go on bashes.
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@GlasgowCyclops, Eye, AND you get to spend one of them sharing with me..... gotta be worth a fair bit that ;-p
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| chocksaway wrote: |
| @bar shaker, Happy with that, I was making a point about economic cycles over the long term, as Stanton's graph clearly demonstrates the UK economy was growing well whilst the EU one was still shrinking, so they have some distance to cover to catch up. Also as a lot of that growth happens in a few large strong economies it disguises how bad it was in some countries exacerbated by their inability to control interest rates, the social impact of the global slump would have been a lot more palatable if local currencies could have devalued as would have happened in the days of the Lira, Peseta, Drachma, etc. |
Totally agree.
The irony is that the Euro was a massive devaluation for Germany, when it joined. Linking the likes of Greece and Portugal to the Euro's price means it still trades way below what a free Dm would be trading at. Greece's problems are still far from resolved but are being better managed. Fortunately inflation (over 2%) is hard to find anywhere in the G7, for the EU mostly due to the movement of labour from the Eastern European countries.
The same cannot be predicted for the UK, if the taps for labour supply are indeed turned off. If I were forced to make a prediction it would be that we end up with a Free Movement Lite and a Single Market Lite at the end of it. No matter what the knuckle draggers want, the economic sense of retaining both of these options is overwhelming.
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I'm not even gonna post a link to an irrelevant chart, but 'gas' price - or 'oil' as we refer to it- is at an historically low price and has been for some time.
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You know it makes sense.
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Brexit strikes again.....
Oh wait... this has absolutely nothing to do with it, nor will it make this season more expensive
Running out of links are we bud?
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@PaulC1984, i know but its timely.
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Brent crude oil price in $'s over last month
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| Bigtipper wrote: |
Brent crude oil price in $'s over last month
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Still very low though.
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| stanton wrote: |
| @PaulC1984, i know but its timely. |
Timely in what sense?.....
In the sense that your topic was no longer on the first page so needed a boost to bring it back into the limelight?!
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Quote from te artcile: The Pound’s gains may conversely fall away in the near-term, depending on the UK government’s post-Brexit predictions.
That's a whole lot of if, buts and maybes, it almost sounds like you wrote that paragraph
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@PaulC1984, wait for the impact documents
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Let's hope "Wellbeing" equates to, "Being Well" - as the waiting list for Orthopedics in NI is 3 years and there is a predicted NHS meltdown this winter, with a lack of Nurses to man the wards.
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| Old Fartbag wrote: |
Let's hope "Wellbeing" equates to, "Being Well" - as the waiting list for Orthopedics in NI is 3 years and there is a predicted NHS meltdown this winter, with a lack of Nurses to man the wards. |
I live in the EU just over the border from you. I’ve just prolapsed my L5S1 disc and can’t do much other than lie down right now. I’ve seen my GP, which I paid for and am now on the HSE (ROIs version of the NHS) waiting list to see the orthopedic consultant. I just shelled out €300 to see the same consultant privately and he said he would expect to see me in approx 3 years time for the consultation on the HSE list then 3-4 years wait for surgery. So that’s seven years wait for surgery for me, unless I come up with €8k in cash when I can have it next week.
In summary 3 years - from where I’m sitting that sounds great.
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| rogg wrote: |
I live in the EU just over the border from you. I’ve just prolapsed my L5S1 disc and can’t do much other than lie down right now. I’ve seen my GP, which I paid for and am now on the HSE (ROIs version of the NHS) waiting list to see the orthopedic consultant. I just shelled out €300 to see the same consultant privately and he said he would expect to see me in approx 3 years time for the consultation on the HSE list then 3-4 years wait for surgery. So that’s seven years wait for surgery for me, unless I come up with €8k in cash when I can have it next week.
In summary 3 years - from where I’m sitting that sounds great. |
That sounds brutal - is that length of wait common across healthcare in the republic, or is that specific to your operation / ortho ?
I know people in the UK moan about the NHS, but 3 years to even have a consultation is incredible.
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