Poster: A snowHead
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Masque wrote: |
rob@rar.org.uk, ooo Betty! |
It was a fair suggestion I thought, no need for abuse. Clearly this is something you feel strongly about, and consumers taking their money elsewhere is the best way to get commercial enterprises to sit up and take notice.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar.org.uk, hmmm, I thought I was pulling yer plonker No abuse intended, pax?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Masque wrote: |
rob@rar.org.uk, hmmm, I thought I was pulling yer plonker No abuse intended, pax? |
OK, apologies for misunderstanding (although in my defence I have been accused of being shallow and (by implication) lazy, disorganised and requiring of instant gratification in this thread so it's been a little tricky working out what your motivation is).
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Masque, I dont really see your point. Beach resorts are not going to be built inland; whats the problem wth building in the mountains. You think thats environmentally bad then wait till a billion chinese switch on their new air-conditioning. Sorry but IO wouldnt even consider staying somewhere like Brides de la Bains for a week.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Masque wrote: |
I think our devotion and dependence on our car has fueled this need for ski in ski out convenience. The simple fact that without it we mourn its loss and feel demeaned and uncomfortable in the need to use public transport and are completely unprepared mentally to share a crowded space with others. It's alien to us so we demand accommodation that eliminated the need for any type of transport. Earlier I postulated it was laziness, could anxiety be the stronger motivation.
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Well, I don't drive and I like ski-in/ski-out. Walking around on icey streets in ski boots with a pair of skis is a pain in the ar$e which I would prefer to avoid, as is being jammed into a skibus at London Underground packing fractions with added skis and poles. I feel you may need to re-think this theory of yours
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Frosty the Snowman, I am trying to hold this to skiing since by definition it is active recreation, especially in comparison to most beach holidays . . . unless you're a Manumission regular? (can't really see you in leather chaps and a medalion . . . though some might )
We could get into the resource needs of each type of holiday but I'm trying to keep this to our attitudes and motivations for what we demand from our ski accommodation.
rob@rar.org.uk, Sorry Rob, I'm just pushing the envelope to drive thought and emotion. That and my humour tends to be dryer than Scarpa's love life.
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Ian Hopkinson, actually, you illustrate it. You want absolute convenience and I believe that is driving the type of development we're seeing. Do you think that given a comfortable and convenient transport infrastructure to get you to the lifts you would need to be able to 'ski in ski out'?
Could I call you selfish for demanding resort facilities that suit your self indulgence? It's a serious question that is being asked about high mountain development. Just because you have the wherewithal to fund it, it may mean a long term detriment to your kids. Do you think about sustainability for the long term pleasure of our sport.
No, I'm not targeting you, I'm just pointing out that we're now able to satisfy our indulgences . . . how long can we continue and what next?
We bear a responsibility for the way that mountain development has progressed, how much do we recognise our role in that?
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Masque, although I did not like the Disney-esque way of things, Whistler did have the ski bus thing almost perfect, regular, and skis went in slots on the outside of the bus, so no poking people with them. Mostly they were quiet too. I think I prefer my short (200m) walk to the slopes though.
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Can you give us a hint as to what the project is Masque? I'm intrigued.
I have stayed in ski in/ski out accommodation and accommodation where a bus ride or walk was required. I don't mind a walk or bus ride but it's a real pain when you have to get young children organised and to a different part of the mountain for lessons before you can get on the slopes yourself.
I was not in ski in and out accommodation last Easter and it ate up loads of time getting the children up to a mountain without much skiing for the more experienced skiers and then getting away and back to collect them.
I'm really looking forward to a hotel that is right on the piste in February though. Think it has been there for years if that is any defence in the environmental debate! Also it is not a resort particularly over-run with Brits as far as I know.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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aidancostello, Id love to but I'd have to steal your eldest daughter Still in the middle of trademarking etc. so not yet. That and far more energy and resources are being consumed by another matter.
I'm trying to look at the long term historical role we've played in resort development and where does it go from here. But I bet your parents were far less fussed than you are with sheparding the family flock around a holiday.
It's all to do with comfort zones and expectations?
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