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I'd also like to see compenency licences for resort users for each colour of piste.

Seems a good idea. Only very compentent skiers allowed on blue runs, moderately compentent on red ones and anyone allowed on blacks will certainly reduce crowds and make blue runs, which IMHO are the most dangerous, safer.
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@johnE, liking your thinking!
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Do you really think people are going to participate in a competence exam when arriving on there jollies for a week , c,mon !!!
Itll drive people away from snowsport
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The most dangerous skiing I saw last week was probably on the blue runs. What was interesting was that the danger came not from out of control intermediates or beginners, but actually from the more technically proficient. They may well have been completely in control, they certainly looked it, but the speed with which they cut past other people left no allowance for the unexpected. More than once I saw an expert skier cross less than a metre in front of a traversing beginner at a closing speed well in excess of 30mph. It's like the analogy someone here used a few weeks back: It doesn't matter how good a driver Lewis Hamilton may be, you don't want him driving at 120mph in a 30 mph speed limit past the school gates. Safety on the slopes is far more about making the right judgements than technical excellence.
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@kat.ryb,
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Feel the same way about your car? Its just a paint job... who cares of some dick head scratches it with a shopping trolley?

No, I don't feel the same about my car, but I do feel that way about a garden spade, a pair of hiking boots, a hammer etc. I'm not saying that having someone march all over your skis wouldn't be mildly irritating but otherwise? No, it wouldn't worry me. Skis have never struck me as something where the aesthetics are remotely important.
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but I do feel that way about a garden spade, a pair of hiking boots, a hammer etc


Hammer = £5 from B&Q and as far as I am aware does not get designed with a nice paint job

Snowboard = £350 to £1000 and has been purposely designed with a nice looking top sheet graphic which does in part, influence peoples purchasing decision.
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foxtrotzulu wrote:
Skis have never struck me as something where the aesthetics are remotely important.


As a self professed renter of skis, who professes a love for sunnies with helmet and has an obsession with whether a belt on a man's trousers is the mark of a scoundrel, I'm not sure how much weight we should give your views on ski aesthetics wink
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foxtrotzulu wrote:
The most dangerous skiing I saw last week was probably on the blue runs. What was interesting was that the danger came not from out of control intermediates or beginners, but actually from the more technically proficient. They may well have been completely in control, they certainly looked it, but the speed with which they cut past other people left no allowance for the unexpected. More than once I saw an expert skier cross less than a metre in front of a traversing beginner at a closing speed well in excess of 30mph. It's like the analogy someone here used a few weeks back: It doesn't matter how good a driver Lewis Hamilton may be, you don't want him driving at 120mph in a 30 mph speed limit past the school gates. Safety on the slopes is far more about making the right judgements than technical excellence.


In this example if the hypothetical expert is truly expert the closing speed between him and the beginner is almost irrelevant - he is no more likely to hit the beginner than hit a tree or a post or a fence. The real villain of the piece is poor resort layout which sees a large number of people of diverse ability on the same piste and/or poor snow conditions which see people on terrain they would not otherwise be on. I know people who will deliberately ski all and any offpiste however shitty rather than take a piste because they dislike the free for all that is an averagely busy Euro piste.
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@foxtrotzulu, the dreaded blue run heros. Competent enough to get some speed up and think they look good, not competent enough to deal with the consequences of said speed i.e. keeping a safe distance from others, and ability to react quickly to the inevitable (and excusable) erratic skiing of nervous developing learners. You'll easily spot the BRH's because they'll have helmet and sunnies, platinum standard rentals and their jacket flapping open. The berks.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, @Dr John, Actually, the people I had in mind were almost certainly French and I wouldn't have been surprised if they were actually locals. They 100% did not fall into the category of BRH. It was plain to see they were genuinely very good skiers, but just that IMO they lacked judgement. As I said, Lewis Hamilton doing 120 mph outside the school gates.

@Dave of the Marmottes, Resort layout is almost irrelevant. In the instances I'm thinking of there was plenty of room for the faster skier to have passed at a safe (and more considerate) distance. They just chose not to because they were straight-lining the piste. I also don't understand your point about 'large number of people of diverse ability on the same piste'. Should we ban experts from anything less than a red run and prohibit intermediates from blacks? I don't see any problem with skiers of all levels skiing any run they choose. They should just adapt their skiing accordingly.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Dave of the Marmottes wrote:
foxtrotzulu wrote:
Skis have never struck me as something where the aesthetics are remotely important.


As a self professed renter of skis, who professes a love for sunnies with helmet and has an obsession with whether a belt on a man's trousers is the mark of a scoundrel, I'm not sure how much weight we should give your views on ski aesthetics wink


Good post!!
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Good post!!


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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
kat.ryb wrote:

Snowboard = £350 to £1000 and has been purposely designed with a nice looking top sheet graphic which does in part, influence peoples purchasing decision.

The only way a top sheet graphic that influence my purchase decision is if it's so hideous that I wouldn't buy it even though it performs well!

Otherwise, I purchase skis base purely, 100% on their on snow performance.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Boarding is certainly in the decline
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