 Poster: A snowHead
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I've been lucky enough to get my hands on nice little Whitedot quiver, a carbonlite ranger and a standard redeemer.
The plan was to mount these up with quiver killers and swap a pair of epf f12 tours between them.
However....
Due to previous mounts i'm looking at +0.5 on the redeemer. Ideally i wanted to go +2 for a presumed bit more playfulness.
On the ranger i'm looking at +1 minimum maybe +1.5. Ideally i wanted to go on the line as i'm keen to avoid any tip dive potential.
I guess the question is whether or not i'm going to really notice any difference, i'm guessing not but i wasn't sure if either of these are super mount sensitive.
The above is based on what to me looks like the minimum comfortable distance (2.5mm edge to edge) between the old holes and the QK O/D. Anyone got any experience of going this tight? or tighter? I can't imagine the redeemers will be an issue but maybe the CL construction is a bit more sensitive?
Thanks
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Which length skis and how tall/heavy are you?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sorry, 190 Redeemer, 186 ranger
About 85-90kgs depending on how much kit i'm carrying. 187cm.
Thanks
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Redeemer is plenty playful enough mounted on the line. Unless perhaps you ski in some constant butter mode.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The FR line on the Redeemers is money & you won't notice any difference at +0.5cm.
The FR line on the Ranger is a bit rearward which is great when used as a predominately soft snow ski but seeing as you have the Redeemers for big days I'd recommend going +1.5 to +2cm.
You big issue is the hole spacing as you want more than 2.5mm separation. 10mm+ separation is really required on the trad ski and on the CL you can go a bit tighter but I'd still want at least 7mm.
And when plugging the old holes use epoxy to bond in the plugs & not PVA.
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Perfect cheers,
We're talking 10mm edge to edge yes rather than c-c? I'll have a measure up and see what I can fit in.
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Yep, edge to edge.
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@mmrm2, just a comment....I ski Ranger CLs and also used to ski the standard Redeemer (same sizes and weight/ height as yourself). you'll find the Redeemer a real heavy beast even in pow, I sold mine and bought the new Ragnarok CL a far superior and lighter ski. The Redeemer is a great fun ski but I'd really suggest you think and maybe swap for the Rag CL.
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@Markymark29,
Thanks i'll have a little look, i would have thought the rag would have have been even more of a handful with it's minimal tail rocker and stiffness?
Out of interest, where did it feel particularly heavy? tight tree's or just everywhere?
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@mmrm2, I skied the trad Redeemers for 2 seasons and they were awesome but very heavy generally, particularly in the trees and when dropping a few icy moguls at the end of a big powder run they are a real handful. Then things moved on with carbon and the new second generation Rag CL came out at@spyderjon, says they are so nimble, light and turn so easy. These and the Ranger CL are for me a perfect 2 ski quiver. I'd 100% recommend them. Don't get me wrong the trad Redeemer is a good ski but its been well surpassed by the Rag CL imo. 
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hmmmmmm don't tempt me!
I'm planning on taking them to Japan for a week this season so i'll see how they get on and go from there. Any other opinions on mounting? 0ish is still the plan but reading @Markymark29, i'm wondering if they feel a bit more lively further forward. Anyone done it?
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I think I can chime in on this one, and the guys are 100% right, the FR line for the Redeemer is spot on but you could go +1cm easily. Some of our team ride them up to +6cm forward of the FR line but those guys are looking for a BC jib ski and are light guys as well. As for the Ranger's, the CL construction is no more sensitive than the Trad to mounting and I think you could go +1.5 easily....just out of interest what year is the Ranger (or R.108 as it is now)?
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