I've just been into a Trespass shop (getting some of those hand warmer things) and one of the staff joined a conversation my husband and I were having on helmets.
Without getting into the detail of our discussion (aka disagreement re helmets), we were told by the shop assistant who is their "snow expert" that helmets are going to be compulsory in Europe from next season - REALLY?
1) I find this really hard to believe, and 2) if true I'm surprised I'd not heard about this before now.
Is there any truth in this
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Bianchigray wrote:
Is there any truth in this
no
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
On the other hand, I did notice that my son's travel insurance was only valid for helmet wearers. That is compulsion by the back door, I reckon.
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At the airport on the way back from holiday I'm missing a decent helmet thread, not had one in a while.
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After all it is free
Sounds like an EU silly season directive. As mentioned above snow sport insurance maybe a driver. I am sure there would be exclusion policies available like there are for pre existing medical conditions.
But then again if places like Whistler can ban all forms of smoking on their property, for health/legal reasons. I'm sure they could make helmets compulsory if they wanted to (at least enforced when boarding a lift).
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Bianchigray wrote:
Is there any truth in this
Yes...........................OK maybe not.
But if I have to look like a mushroom when I hit the slopes, everyone else can look like a mushroom as well
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@T Bar, ...this post clearly is an unsubtle part of an international plot by an agent provocateur, designed to encourage all snow heads to tear each other apart over vexed helmet debates - resist! Unite!
As for the original post - as a mips fanatic all I can say is - absolute TOSH
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Valais2 - It was a genuine honest question.
It was the Trespass shop in Darlington, if you call them on 01325 382145 and ask to speak to their "Snow Expert" I'm sure she'll tell you the same cr@p she told me. Such as "they've had to act due to number of accidents" which was part of her argument when I doubted what she was saying.
I asked the question on here as I knew people on here would know instantly if it was true. Especially as there are people living in France/Italy/Austria where it would have made the news, whereas here in UK it wouldn't be as big as a news story - well that was my thinking anyway.
I'm not "an agent provocateur, designed to encourage all snow heads to tear each other apart"
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We're off to Austria for the first time. Helmets are compulsory there for children.
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wotnowalshy wrote:
We're off to Austria for the first time. Helmets are compulsory there for children.
If they are then people don't follow it. I think it might just be Italy. Either way, daft.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
@Bianchigray, I know .... And my post was simply a jest...
The shop assistant is slightly right in that a majority of ski schools now insist that all younsters wear helmets, isome resorts are using local laws to require helmets amongst youth, some state regulations require helmets for the young, and our chalet has a 'no skiing without helmets' rule for all youngsters. But no EU discussion as far as I am aware and I spend some time in the European Parliament.
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
@Pruman, I'm pretty sure it is followed.
Certainly in Land Salzburg it is compulsory for under 14's.
I have never seen a kid up to late teenage not wearing a helmet for the last 5 years or so.
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Over the last few weeks I was both surprised and pleased to see several ESF instructors wearing helmets and a piste patroller. My daughters theory is that there is now a generation coming through who have always worn helmets and therefore we will see more and more helmet wearers.
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@flangesax, I saw kids in the Ski Welt without over New Year.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Personally I think if they were banned completely, people would take more care and injury stats for the whole body would go down, accidents in general would go down and head injuries would probably be no higher than with compulsory helmets
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
@Pruman, Ski Welt is in the Tirol, not Salzburgerland so the local laws may be different, but I doubt it. I had to take our Year 7 (German Gymnasium) every season to the Wildschonau and the last 3 years I did it we had to have ski helmets to comply with local regulations (2004, 2005 and 2006). You may be saw some of the local "webels" or just some dumb kids (or parents with less control of their kids than common sense) considering how concrete hard the pistes were all the swept artificial snow they were skiing on.
@Pruman, Ski Welt is in the Tirol, not Salzburgerland
I didn't say it was.
I think the kids I saw might have been Dutch.
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@tangowaggon, That sounds like an argument for removing seat belts from cars.......
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Last year in Cortina my brother in law was told off by other skiers for being without helmet.
A cultural thing or regulations, I don't know.
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Sales staff in total bullshiiite shocker
... and don't forget to buy a helmet before the price rises...
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My view is each to their own, as they have to live with any consequences. I always where a helmet on the mountain, my son wears a helmet full stop. If you don't want to wear a helmet and don't want to put one on your kids, that's your choice, but you alone as that Childs parent has to live tlwith the what ifs should the worst happens. If of course you believe they have no benefit then of course you'll not think what if.
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Rather to my surprise, helmets are not compulsory for children in Tyrol and Vorarlberg but are compulsory in the other Austrian states (with slightly varying age limits). This article (in German) summarises the situation in the various Austrian states. Nowadays it is rather the exception than the rule to see adults without helmets, I would say.
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I'm sat in my front room in the UK rubbing the bruise on the back of my head after it came into contact with a very hard icy piste last week - and that was with a helmet on! I remember thinking as I lay partially stunned in the middle of the piste - thank god I decided to wear a helmet. Then the oh my god I'm in the middle of a narrow icy piste lying on my back thought took over and dragged me to my feet!
It's the first time I've fallen on skis for years and since wearing a helmet and the first time I do I bang my head badly. The funny thing is I don't ever remember banging my head in numerous falls before the helmet! Anyway I'll be wearing one whether they are compulsory or not.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
I've got a nice shiny one
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
PaulC1984,
If you "wear a helmet on the mountain" and your "son wears a helmet full stop" doesn't he attract some funny looks in Asda?
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The mountains of Europe are free to ski on.
If you hike up you have earned your turns.
No one can enforcec Helmets.
Helmets kill people.
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@Bianchigray, ...now look what you've done...
It's all kicked off....and snowheads site bogged down in helmet wars...
'Helmets kill people'
Evidence?
Yes, they may affect psychology - invulnerability syndrome - but speeds induced by carving skis probably more influential
Yes, there are more neck injuries amongst youngsters (weight of helmet) but fewer head trauma
Etc etc - 'helmets kill people' is like saying 'the death penalty works' - ie highly controversial statement without any reference to the complexity of the issue or the nature of the evidence eg
And people might be interested in the issue of rotational brain injury - a good literature now available, which supports the development of MIPS.
'Helmets kill people' - grief - walk into an F1 or Sports Car paddock and shout 'HANS kills people' and check out the reaction of the drivers and crew - you'd be lucky to get out of there....
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Of course people can enforce helmets, the same people that enforce the purchase of lift passes because they have spent millions building and running a lift system.
Those people that choose to walk up (I wish I was that fit!) are a different matter. I'm not sure on the rules on piste usage in that case so can't comment.
But it can be enforced and will be enforced - whether that is next year or in 20 years is a different matter. It will come sometime.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Bergmeister wrote:
PaulC1984,
If you "wear a helmet on the mountain" and your "son wears a helmet full stop" doesn't he attract some funny looks in Asda?
I should have clarified - I dont wear a helmet in a snowdome (unless im doing freestyle or the odd race) as I perceive the risk to be less than on a mountain, which I guess is daft as snowdomes are arguably more dangerous than mountains with the density of new skiers and 4 walls!
Good point valais2, I take part in a sport where HANS devices are being introduced whether you like it or not. I am also in the position of having to replace my perfectly good £400 crash helmet this year because they have changed the compliance rules.
Whether people like them or not my guess is they are going to be compulsory, at least before all the snow melts due to global warming!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
@stanton, helmets don't kill people, people kill people. Oh hang on I think that's guns according to the NRA - still I laughed at their statement too
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