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 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
This is a hotly debated topic on the BASI instructor forums, what do you guys think?
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
There is already a 46 page thread on the go.

BASI sued for £500,000


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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
There's already an enormously long thread about it. Best read that, if you have the stamina, and then you'll know. called "BASI sued for......"
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@Good Stuff Ski,
If you pm a chap called TTT I'm sure he can give you the advice you need.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
T Bar wrote:

If you pm a chap called TTT


or Chapess called TTT wink
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 You'll need to Register first of course.
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David Bowie. RIP
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 Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
To me it is more support the rights of all instructors who put time money and effort into gaining qualifications, at present I see no conflict with SB but do see conflict in that BASI do not seem in my opinion to support all instructors who hold BASI qualifications to the best of their ability.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
Can we blame this on Mr Corbyn by any chance . ?
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Is there an abbreviated sentence as to what the conflict between SB and BASI is?...please.
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Its been quite difficult to get to the bottom of as there have been so many twists and turns. But I think it is something like this.

To avoid the free movement of ski instructor across the EU the host nations agree to introduce a new test to the ski qualification, the Eurotest

There are grandfathering arrangements for existing top level instructors. An MOU.

Basi, hands some out. Then thinks again and takes them back again. This process is allegedly somewhat vague and inconsistent.

Then it is a classic soap opera twist JR Ewing would be proud of, the alleged abuse of power for personal gain. In a nod to the dramatic tendencies of the genre the news of suspension was passed on in The appropriate way at a meeting. Was it an egm or agm at the ski show in london?

I nearly forgot the police, French courts, British courts, competing businesses in the ame resort and of course the fundamental European free movement of people at the heart of the case. It would appear it is easier for a doctor to operate across borders in Europe than a ski instructor, nuts.

The events and characters in this story are fictional etc etc.

I'm sure this could be a great documentary.
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Mt wrote:


To avoid the free movement of ski instructor across the EU the host nations agree to introduce a new test to the ski qualification, the Eurotest


But if you are a snowboarder you do not have to take the Eurotest and can teach skiing Puzzled


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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
It is not so easy to follow. It is actually a little like war in Syria, many different factions, issues, agendas.
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 So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
big davski wrote:
Is there an abbreviated sentence as to what the conflict between SB and BASI is?...please.

http://www.planetski.eu/news/6942
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
letsgetpiste wrote:
big davski wrote:
Is there an abbreviated sentence as to what the conflict between SB and BASI is?...please.

http://www.planetski.eu/news/6942


This article is from April 2015 and is therefore not upto date.
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 Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
I think Simon Butler may be People's Front of Judiah and BASI have and alliance with the Judian People's Front. Or something is the Popular Front?
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 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
Thanks folks.
A bit clearer now.
Cheers!
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
stewart woodward wrote:
Mt wrote:


To avoid the free movement of ski instructor across the EU the host nations agree to introduce a new test to the ski qualification, the Eurotest


But if you are a snowboarder you do not have to take the Eurotest and can teach skiing Puzzled


I thought it was the other way around?, you could teach snowboarding as long as you were a qualified ski instructor (hence the low skill level of 99% of the esf snowboard instructors)
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Mt wrote:


Then it is a classic soap opera twist


Even better, the boss of the ESF is now in charge of the French Alps politically. It's payback time Sue Ellen.
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Isn't it also alleged that a Board Member of BASI personally stands to gain as he has his own private "ski school" and is an ESF instructor in the resort Simon Butler operates(ed) and that this Board member is the person who has pushed for SB to be fined/punished/banned?
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@eddiethebus, I'm not sure about this, but if you are a fully qualified (L4) BASI snowboard instructor, and have skiing as your second discipline, can you teach skiing in France, even if you don't have L4 skiing and haven't done the ET?
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