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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If i was asking for a board to be waxed, I would not expect them to p-tex any gouges. That is a different and more time consuming process and I would expect to have to ask for it specifically. The wax will usually fill the gouges temporarily but will soon be pulled out by the action of riding on the snow.
Too much (snowboard) wax is a bad thing if you want speed and it sounds like they could have done a better job of scraping it off, but that's about it as far as I can tell from your description. A £1 scraper and 5 minutes would sort it out if you are in the same situation again.
However, I would also say that the lack of speed may not have been all due to the wax. I was in Chatel at New Year and we noticed very different snow conditions from one hour to the next on some days. Sometimes the snow was really sticky and not fast at all, whereas a few hours later it would be much quicker. The temps seemed to be changing so much, and there was a decent amount of new snow falling, and this meant that the snow characteristics were very variable.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hey Tony. yeah the thought about snow conditions did occur to me. First couple of days I was there it was week old snow.. then on the 3rd day after a night long dump and continued to snow all day I noticed the change in performance... therfore I thought that a fresh wax would improve things... but I didn't really notice any change.. in fact it felt worse.. but may have been to do with as you say the changing sonditions... the snow did seem sticky/wet early on.. and when the temp dropped later in the day .. was a bit more crisp....
maybe I won't go back and burn the guys house ... just yet
Cheers!!
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Hello folks - this got me thinking. I got a new board last season and was told that it wouldn't need a wax for a while because it was new. On day four or five it started to feel odd - a bit sticky, and when I was on a drag lift it actually started squeaking on the snow. Is this a symptom of lack of wax? After how many days on snow would you get a new board waxed for the first time?
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Duvet, normally after 2-3 days it will need its first wax.
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Normal wax on skis is not good when it is very cold. Have had several days with newly-waxed skis and a very cold day. The skis then just do not slide nicely. The only cures I know are (1) find warmer snow and (2) keep on skiing slowly until the surface was is all gone. Christmas week in Val d'Isere was cold and our skis did not run nicely that week.
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There are different types of wax for different snow temperatures. I am not sure how effective or ineffective it would be to have say a wax rated as 0-minus10 deg if the temperature was lower or higher. Although I would assume any wax is better than none.
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If you ask for a wax, you should definitely not expect anything but a wax - if you want the gouges to be filled and the base ground, you'd have to ask for that, and you'd have to pay more. How much did they charge you for just the wax?
It sounds like they didn't scrape the wax off, which would be a mistake on their part. However, the wax should scrape itself off your base after a few runs, so don't know why this would have affected you for a few days. It also sounds like they may have put on a warm weather wax when the temps were cold, anoter mstake. But even with the right wax, soft/fresh/powdery snow is going to run slower than old, hard snow.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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DIY definately the way to go, best post riding social as well, get all the boards out and have a good wax, ptex, beer session! NICE!
Oh and dont drip the hot PTEX on an ashtray or it'll explode! Then you have to tiptoe around your room looking for glass shards and hide the evidence!
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lo-ridah - that sounds like the voice of experience!!
yes, waxing is an easy DIY job although I never bother doing it in resort for a week's trip - I just do it when I get home ready for the next trip (however much it feels like a chore after you have returned home, you will thank yourself for it when you pack for the next trip and realise the board is ready to go)
p-texing is a bit of an art in my experience and ideally the p-tex should be on fire as it drips into the hole, so that it bonds properly with the base. the stuff can get everywhere though when it is alight and dripping.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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[quote="Oisin Osh Kelly"] the base looked like it had been washed in wax (filmy coating similar to a translucent watercolour).
Just wondering from your description if may be the wax job was done by some sort of automated machine/process (not sure if they exist)
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ok,who know anything about edging the board?
I can wax ok,got the gist of Ptex ,but the whole edging malarchy has me beat.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Oisin Osh Kelly,
Hi. I had the exact same waxing experience as you. When I picked up the board it still had the fine white crystals all over it and a nice man said that in that shop they only do the 'quickie' waxes rather than the proper hot wax and that he didn't know anywhere in Samoens that does the proper hot wax (anyone know of anywhere in Samoens that does it?). But in the end we did a DIY job and I was hsit off a shovel for the rest of the week. So the rubbish wax was called 'Fartage' (tee hee) - how do I ask for the proper hot wax if I'm ever too lazy to do it DIY? (i'm still talking about snowboards here...)
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