 Poster: A snowHead
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| jedster wrote: |
| So it's just a fashion statement? |
Ask them not me, but I'd say it's an alternative to wearing a scarf or face mask or whatever you wear there.
The point is that it's not going to protect your dental work: it's not structural, as I said. It's not a "full face helmet", it's a helmet with a bit in the front to keep the wind off your mustache.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I'm yet another who has broken ribs when falling on a tranceiver. In addition to those on this thread, I know of another skier who has done the same. For a piece of safety equipment, they do seem to cause a lot of injuries!
Come on manufacturers, show us what you can do...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| JamesN wrote: |
| I love how this site changed a word rhyming with farce to back bottom. |
farce about face
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ask them not me, but I'd say it's an alternative to wearing a scarf or face mask or whatever you wear there.
The point is that it's not going to protect your dental work: it's not structural, as I said. It's not a "full face helmet", it's a helmet with a bit in the front to keep the wind off your mustache.
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Personally I almost never do. All my harsher weather jackets zip up to my nose if I need the protection. Do occasionally wear a buff if it really arctic. I reckon 19 days out of 20 that face guard thing would be a PITA. But hey it looks rad
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My bro broke his ribs on his transceiver in an otherwise innocuous fall. But then typical Euro offpiste is not fluffy cushioning pow everyday.
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In Harness:
Easy for a rescuer to find and turn off.
Can break your ribs in a fall (I too know someone who has done this).
In Pants Pocket:
Safer if it is hot and you are skinning in a base layer.
Needs an attachment point to fix the lanyard too.
To prevent loss, pocket should be an internal pocket reached by an external zip.
In Jacket pocket:
I read of an avalanche where the skier's jacket was torn off
The pants pocket option seems increasing popular with Guides.
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@henzerani,
You want to get out to Chamonix. It isn't even considered especially posy to keep your climbing harness on (complete with 1 dangling ice screw) through 2 or 3 apres bars and a burger at Poco Loco.
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I'm surprised how many people are keeping their phones in chest pockets and backpacks.
I keep mine in the same trouser pockets as when I'm wearing jeans in town, on the other side to my transceiver. Seems the simplest option?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@clarky999, so do I, but that's awfully close to 30cm from transceiver, which is suppose to be shortest distance recommended. Actually with mine Ortovox 3+ it looks like this distance should be min. 50cm, which makes me wonder where my phone should be... on end of 1.5m long selfie stick?  I know I don't really need phone with me, but I would say having phone in case something happens and you need to call for help, is not such big disadvantage, or?
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know I don't really need phone with me, but I would say having phone in case something happens and you need to call for help, is not such big disadvantage
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switch it off until you need it?
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You know it makes sense.
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Actually... if I understood right those things on links above, main problem is when you are in search mode, for transmitting it just shouldn't cover your transceiver. Right?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@primoz, you are correct, the most interference is caused in search mode. Holding the transceiver at arms length should provide 50-60cm of separation. Anyone trying to make an emergency call should not be between the searchers and potential burials.
In transmit mode an active mobile close to your transceiver will reduce the accuracy of the fine search, for those searching for you.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@primoz, phones can really interfere with transceivers. There is a lot of info around, personally I have found that phones can transmit a signal that will be picked up by a transceiver. This can significantly interfere with a search.
On balance I think phones have saved way more lives than transceivers but you need both and the phone should be in your sac switched off. I have never had to search for a buried skier but even in the lower stress practice search scenario it is difficult to get everyone to stop transmitting from their transceiver.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Here's a guide's take on this - it's always best worn on your torso - preferably (for most models) slightly to the side to minimise restriction whilst moving.
Hearing about the "guides" wearing it in their trouser's pocket....well let me say two things about this:
1) they're lazy
2) reason why? well a beacon placed in a pocket on your leg (most likely thigh) is a much smaller target to hit for the people searching for you...now if they're guides and counting on their guests to 1) locate them 2) make an accurate stab with a probe 3) they've had too many genepis at the local watering hole. End of.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| primoz wrote: |
| @clarky999, so do I, but that's awfully close to 30cm from transceiver, which is suppose to be shortest distance recommended. Actually with mine Ortovox 3+ it looks like this distance should be min. 50cm, which makes me wonder where my phone should be... on end of 1.5m long selfie stick? I know I don't really need phone with me, but I would say having phone in case something happens and you need to call for help, is not such big disadvantage, or? |
Yeah, you're right - phone in pocket on right thigh, transceiver on left side of chest about halfway between hip and armpit. Probably 30-40cms. Something I should think more about, really!
I think having a phone is pretty essential tbh - probably (hopefully?) way more likely that someone will break a leg etc and need heli evac than one of your group gets caught in an avalanche. Plus just simply co-ordinating with other friends who happen to be on the mountain etc. Keeping it turns doff on my pack isn't really practical for me. Maybe the cargo pockets down closer to my knees would be a safer option though.
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