 Poster: A snowHead
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at least the weather is playing ball with allowing them to work, it could be snowing or something
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Was actually thinking after my last post that there's going to be an awful lot of smoke n'mirrors about this as many many people have a vested interest to promote the fact that a new road will be opening and how everything "will be well in the garden" 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The new road is looking absolutely fantastic. All the foundations are down and tarmacing is set to begin from both the Hautes-Alpes and Isere end on Monday and should be completed in a week's time. Congratulations to the teams who have worked on this project. It has meant that a road bridge near us over the Isere has not been reopened this year as the funds have gone to the Chambon road but we can live with that inconvenience. The road is looking a lot better than many of our local routes and I'm sure the people of the upper Romanche will be generous in their thanks for the Isere ratepayers who have largely funded this projects.
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Article about the relief road from In the Snow. I see it says that traffic using it will be limited to vehicles up to 12 tons in weight and less than 8 meters long.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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They really are rather good at roads, aren't they?
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@pam w, I'll agree with you on that one!
Can you imagine how long a project like that would take in the UK, what with planning authorities and then the likes of conservationists, lobbyists rare wildlife etc etc !
Though, and I know I'm being glass half empty on this, we'll have to see what it's like in the depth of winter.
Plus we were banking on the road not being ready as we would have been reimbursed 90 odd euros on our season passes 
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Plus we were banking on the road not being ready as we would have been reimbursed 90 odd euros on our season passes
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Ah. So all that stuff about vested interests and political posturing was just smoke and mirrors. 
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@pam w,
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@Weathercam, Look on the bright side, we've got a L2A season pass for €90........ 
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As my L2A pass relies on the road for 3 free days in Montgenèvre, Puy Saint Vincent, Serre-Chevalier and Sestrières and is helpful for La Grave (if link isn't open) I'll be pleased to see it open too
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Hells Bells, have you like me clocked what @Claude B mentioned ?
How come he gets 3 days Montgenevre and Via Lattea and we don't and yet are not Serre Lift Co and LDA the same  ??
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@Weathercam, yep, I have. The Monty and Via lattea are also still available to weekly pass holders. 
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You know it makes sense.
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And 10 days at Alpe D'Huez and bizarrely 1 at Flaine. 2 free days at La Grave if the link is open and I think reductions at other times. Good deal IMO.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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There was a report on the road on France 3 a couple of days ago that may be available online.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Claude B, until this season coming up, we always had 3 days each at a variety of resorts (Montgenevre, Via Lattea, Puy St Vincent, Alpe d'Hues and L2A), but they've removed our passes for all of the VL/Montgenevre this year (removed Monty last season I thinj), but increased the price by quite some way, and given us season long access to L2A. Still have 3 days at ADH and PSV. Last season we had several free days to give out to friends we were skiing with, now they are half price days . We can choose a cheaper season pass with no access to any other resorts, and I'm starting to wish I had done so now. It really is bizarre, especially as weekly pass holders and people from other resorts still have those benefits.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Another report here
The relief road looks to be "interesting" with some steep drop offs at the side down into the lake  , I hope the users of the road will drive suitably carefully......
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I'll try and get up there next week once it opens and see how it really is!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Alastair Pink wrote: |
Another report here
The relief road looks to be "interesting" with some steep drop offs at the side down into the lake , I hope the users of the road will drive suitably carefully...... |
Most of the mountain roads round here are just strips of tarmac laid down on the old mule trails with no walls or barriers on much of the road with cliffs on one side. You just have to drive carefully.
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So the chances of visiting la grave from oz this season looks possible?
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Only with a local number plate,... not quiet sure how exactly they will police this, i.e. we're "05" keep you informed!
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There are also plenty of cars around in the area that are not 'local' but are owned and driven by locals.
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@Hells Bells, True....
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They may let all 05 (Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur) and 38 (Rhone Alpes-Isère) through no questions, anyone else MAY have to show proof of residency????
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As clear as mud then. Just wondering how this pans out for the refund on our season pass if this road is unavailable to us as users of a British registered car. One for my next email to Corinne.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| KenX wrote: |
| Only with a local number plate,... not quiet sure how exactly they will police this, i.e. we're "05" keep you informed! |
There is no such thing as a "local" number plate anymore.
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| davidof wrote: |
| KenX wrote: |
| Only with a local number plate,... not quiet sure how exactly they will police this, i.e. we're "05" keep you informed! |
There is no such thing as a "local" number plate anymore. |
But will traffic be restricted to locals only? Back on 9th Oct you wrote "Latest news on the road. It is expected to have a capacity of 1500 vehicles per day, that is the same as the old road except for peak periods. It will be open to all car traffic not just locals. There is an avalanche control and clearance plan in place for this winter."
The In the Snow report I linked to on 13 Nov said "Traffic using it will be limited to vehicles up to 12 tons in weight and less than 8 meters long – which is too light and too short for most buses although minibuses should be OK. Two way traffic should be possible on the road although the speed limit will be 30km/h."
Has anyone seen any official statement about who may use the relief road? 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Well I'm expecting this to be an ever changing scenario as I presume the route will be closely monitored throughout the coming season as there are just too many unknown variables that could affect it, such as snow fall, ice, avalanche threat, road breaking up etc etc
Everyone, well all the people with access to the media are naturally going to be putting a positive spin on this and that includes people I know in LG and even then I don't expect that they'll know the whole story.
And if this locals number plate thing is real that's not good for some guides who run Swedish plates!
So it's down to KenX to be our roving reporter 
But like I've mentioned before I don't intend to use this route in the winter, nor will I advise mates to use it. And the only interest we have is how it affects the possible rebates on our passes, sorry.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Charlotte (easiski) is driving down it from L2A to La Grave tomorrow, I'll let you know what she thinks, should see her tomorrow evening.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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One thing to consider with a 30kph limit is the bottle neck it will cause and potential tail backs during peak periods.
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Good find @Weathercam 
Did you have something to do with the exclusion of camper vans???!!!
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Still doesn't say how they're going to regulate it, maybe they'll just leave the diversion signs up and hope that only people in the know will use it?
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Should be opening today at 16:00 hours.........
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| KenX wrote: |
| Still doesn't say how they're going to regulate it, maybe they'll just leave the diversion signs up and hope that only people in the know will use it? |
Regulate it in what way?
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Dissuade non-local traffic, I suppose.
No trailers, either. No minibus, with or without trailer.
Impressive achievement....
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@KenX, perhaps they aren't regulating it at all? I suspect if it gets busy they will close it.
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