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Hi all,

Heres a quick clip of me skiing at my local dry slope today, any advice on turning? Ive noticed that my legs seem to be in a bit of an a-frame, and the outside ski seems to be edging over more than the inside ski most of the time.

Any advice is greatly appreciated as always!

Apologies for the terrible quality


http://youtube.com/v/n1jcJOVwh9g
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You're rushing the start of most turns and pushing the skis sideways to create the initial change in direction. Be smoother/more patient with the beginning of the turn. Allowing yourself to use a wider corridor for your long radius turns will give you a bit more time for a smoother turn setup, and then allow the forces to build up giving you the opportunity for bigger edge angles.

Having the outside ski edged a bit more than the inside ski (by dropping the outside knee) seems to be common on dry slopes because of the lower grip levels compared to snow.
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Thanks! Ill try some wider turns and try and get the edges over more Smile I find it difficult to get more of an angle than this
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el.sammo wrote:
I find it difficult to get more of an angle than this
It's a tricky balance to develop big angles by generating enough "g-forces" to balance against. Following a longer arc around a long radius turn should give you larger forces, especially later in the turn, so you have more to balance against. But it's tough on plastic, so good luck with it.

I think that skiers who rush/snap the start of the turn will usually limit the angles they create later in the turn because they never allow the lateral forces to build up.
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el.sammo wrote:
Thanks! Ill try some wider turns and try and get the edges over more Smile I find it difficult to get more of an angle than this


Part of that will be the plastic. Well serviced kit will help. Robs comment about being patient at the start of the arc is good advice. I see you moving quickly onto the new o/s but not being especially balanced against it. I'd also suggest trying to spend a little more time in each arc.
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@el.sammo, Look at the Video; how are you starting each turn? where does the movement come from?

I agree with the above that you are rushing the turns; but is that a function of how you are starting the turn?
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@scooby_simon, it seems to be coming from my kicking the back of the skis out instead of rolling the skis on to their edges, but Im pretty terrible at self reflection. What would you reccommend?
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@el.sammo, Look at the Video; how are you starting each turn? where does the movement come from?



I agree with the above that you are rushing the turns; but is that a function of how you are starting the turn?





Uh oh, instructor talk alert, why would he know where the movement comes from or if rushing was a function of his turn

He probably hasn't watched 1000 people ski or done hours of vid watching so likely doesn't know the answer.

Ask some people you teach to put their hands on their hips, see how many put them on their waist instead.
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Ask some people you teach to put their hands on their hips, see how many put them on their waist instead.


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I think you'd probably find me guilty of that too... Shocked
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Just out of interest, how long would anyone guess I'd been skiing for? People often guess wildly different things!
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Just out of interest, how long would anyone guess I'd been skiing for? People often guess wildly different things!


The fact that you're asking suggests not very long.

While you're confident I have to say that to me your skiing looks more like someone who's trying to copy good skiing rather than someone with lots of experience and tuition under their belt.

But keep up the good work. I'd suggest you get some lessons from a good instructor and you'll come on leaps and bounds.
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Hi el.sammo, A brave question to ask as it may be a cause of insult or upset - so with neither intended, I guess a week on snow and a couple of times on the dry stuff - you appear to be confident so follow olderscots advice and you will progress fast - remembering we only do it for fun!
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I agree with @Charliee, you will see your progress come on much faster on the white stuff than on dry slopes. You will find the longer runs available will help you to feel good vs bad turns too, I know its summer right now but maybe try and plan a trip or two this winter.

Keep it up though, good on you pal.
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el.sammo wrote:
@scooby_simon, it seems to be coming from my kicking the back of the skis out instead of rolling the skis on to their edges, but Im pretty terrible at self reflection. What would you reccommend?


Exactly!

Start on a gentle slope, not far up that plastic slope; point the skis directly down the hill, one ski either side of one of the joins in the matting (just as a reference point).

Slide....

Tip/tlt your skis onto the edges and you should find they gently turn one way; tip them onto the other set of edges and then you should go back the other way. get used to JUST riding the edges of your skis. Remember to be balanced more on the outide ski of each turn.

You will not be turning very far across the slope; maybe just past the join in the matting (maybe 20-40cm to start with)

Once you are comfortable making gentle "wiggles" down the hill, just by edging your skis; move up the hill a bit and try and travel a little further round each turn before you tip the skis over to ride them back the other way.

Let me know how you get on Happy
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