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Beginner race boots

 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
Hi all,

Im looking to get in to ski racing, Ive already made a thread about first race skis (as some of you may have seen) but now Im looking for some decent entry level boots. I found these on ebay - just wondering if anyones used these and has any opinions on them? also any tips on what to look for when buying are appreciated!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Salomon-Falcon-Race-Ski-Boots-/301239360799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item462343dd1f

P.s. can boots be foot moulded after buying online?
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ok, the boot you are looking at is approx 8-10 years old, possibly older, technology and more importantly the last shape of boots has improved a lot over this time you will find most shops will heat mould any part of the boot which can be moulded for a price, on that boot it is a custom liner not shell
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Would that make much difference to me as a new racer? I've noticed that the newer boots are a lot more expensive, I'm trying to spend no more than 120
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if you want to race then there is no point buying a racing boot that isn't fitted properly, unless you know these boots are perfect for you and I mean perfect you might as well just use whatever you use normally, not moving about in the boot is more important than it being a 'race boot'
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okay thanks for the advice Smile in that case I also found these (slightly more pricey but I'm pretty sure these can be heat moulded at a ski store for a perfect fit) which are newer. any thoughts?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATOMIC-REDSTER-PRO-130-SKI-BOOTS-385-26-5-mon-2015-RACE-SKIING-MENS-UNISEX-/221798962367?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a43f94bf
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@el.sammo, Do you have your own boots at all ? If you do -- then use them to start. If you don't it's worth thinking about how well you ski, and whether a "race" boot is the best buy. Race boots tend to be very stiff which will restrict very much your ability to flex your ankles -- which will impeed your ability to ski well and win races ! I have seen a lot of my club members dramatically improve simply by getting them out of older, stiff boots and into something more modern and a little softer. You'll also find that when you get to the snow a softer boot will be much easier to live with !

I would say for the racing you are doing (dryslope ?) -- I would spend as much (or more ) as you can afford on boots, and use 2nd or even 3rd hand skis. Your boots will last waaaaaaaay longer than you skis.

EBAY is good for skis --- for boots you really ought to visit a bootfitter,
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@ski, Im afraid not, I always hire equipment. So what kind of flex do you think will be appropriate? I found a good pair of 14/15 Head Raptor's with 115 flex which I've previously tried on in store and know are a great fit. Do you think these would be too stiff for me to start with? As you say, the boots will last many years so as well as being worth spending extra on it would be good to get a pair that suit me as a more advanced racer as well as a beginner
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@el.sammo, If they fit they sound a good place to start.

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As you say, the boots will last many years so as well as being worth spending extra on it would be good to get a pair that suit me as a more advanced racer as well as a beginner



I am not quite so sure about this. Of course I have no idea how you ski now, but one of the features of a full-on race boot will be a very stiff flex -- which can only be used to good effect by very strong and technically very proficient skiers. Use of a stiff boot for the less technically proficient restricts ankle flexing and therefore impeeds development. So a good boot for you now --- which will last you several years, will not be the same as a good boot for you in (say) 5 years time....
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@ski, Thanks for the advice! Could you give me a rough idea as to the type of flex rating I should be looking at? would 100 be too stiff?
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@el.sammo, Bit of a 'How long is a piece of string ?' question ... Most of my aged teenagers/young adults who are starting out ski in 100/110/120 flex --- so 115 sounds fine....
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Okay great! I'll try the Head's on again in store just to make sure theyre perfect for me and then buy them (for much cheaper Very Happy) online
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@el.sammo, Why not ask the shop where you try them on if they can match or at least get near the internet price -- we need to keep local ski shops going wink
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@ski, Will do Very Happy I doubt they will - at LD mountain centre (my local store) they're 140 pounds more than at Ellis Brigham, and the guy in the store seemed adamant that I wouldnt get any boots for much lower than the price they were offering!
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@el.sammo, a "great fit" in the store is not necessarily a good fit. Most of the time, "great fit" = too big.

One of the goals in race boots is precision and too big boots probably won't be precise and it's (sort of) not at all easy to make boots smaller.
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@under a new name, What do you suggest?
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@el.sammo, a boot fitter... but I don't know who's near Newcastle.
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@under a new name, ah, i suppose ill have to make do with trying on in store!
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@el.sammo, Choosing the correct flex has as much to do with your weight/height as your ability. And if the boot is too big then you cannot flex it correctly. Go & get properly measured/fitted etc. Boots are the most important piece of kit you'll own so the 'buy once buy right' adage will certainly be cheaper in the long run. As a first time boot buyer (ie you're not just replacing your existing boot with the exact same make/model of known fit/performance) you actually don't know what a proper fit actually is/feels like.
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