Poster: A snowHead
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Hi
Does anyone know what the narrowest ski that the Salomon STH2 13 binding can be mounted on?
Also can anyone explain the differences in the toe piece of the STH2 and the Warden binding?
Cheers
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The STH2 has a 71mm wide base plate so depending so it's go on a ski not much wider if it had a fairly upright sidewall, however the minimum brake width offered is 90mm. The brakes do 'cam-in' a bit to ensure no overhang at the elbow I'd say low'ish 80mm's underfoot would be about as narrow as you could go.
The STH2 has the WTR toe (Walk To Ride) so even though it has a manual toe height adjustment it's range will only accommodate regular alpine soles & WTR soles but not the thicker/full rockered vibram soles of AT boots. It also has a fixed AFD so it wouldn't be din compliant even if you managed to get an AT boot in it (say by grinding down the sole).
The Warden has sufficient toe height adjustment to accommodate alpine soles, WTR soles & the full rockered vibram soles of AT boots. Plus it has a sliding AFD to be din compliant with the AT soles.
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So would boots like the Salomon Quest, Lange XT and Technica Cochise work with the STH or would it be better to get the warden?
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Those three boots all have either regular alpine soles which can be swapped for WTR soles so will work with the STH2. You'd only benefit from the Warden would be if you planned to switch to a full AT boot in the future.
The obvious question to me is having purchased boots that take a WTR sole & have a skinning/hiking mode then why aren't you getting an alpine/touring binding (ie The Marker Tour or Salomon Guardian)?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I am getting the Guardian for a wider ski, this is for a dedicated in bounds ski for those days where there isn't enough snow to go off piste. So having a a binding that will work with the same boot is the idea. Not looking to get a full touring set up, just having a ski that I can go off for short tours from the top of a lift or a half day tour. hope that makes sense
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Fairy nuff.
If you get the latest 14/15 Guardian it has a full height AT range toe off the Warden so matching it with a Warden would make sense. But if you get the earlier Guardian WTR model then that has the STH2 toe so you might as well get the STH2 to match. I've got one pair of 13/14 small size Guardian 13 WTR's with 100mm brakes left which are going at a bargain price
Or just use Quiver Killer inserts & share the Guardian across both skis.
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Hi @spyderjon, just a quick note, you can get 80mm brakes to order (not in the catologue).
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@spyderjon, I've looked at the quiver killers. I get the idea behind it. How often to you have to re tighten the screws if they are left on for any length of time, and how durable are they?
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@dr_windsurfer, the A2 grade stainless no.2 pozi M5 screws that I supply for use with the Quiver Killers are very durable if you use a decent driver bit & don't over torque them. You use them screws in conjunction with VC3 threadlock (definitely not Loctite as it knackers binding plastic) & they'll usually need just a little nip up every few days of use.
The big problem with the Guardian when using QK inserts is that to remove the bindings you need to unscrew the axle/pivot pin under the toe binding to access the front two mounting screws - for this reason the Marker F12 is a waaaay better option. However I've seen quite a few breakages of the front pivot/base plate on Guardians so maybe removing it every few days & inspecting it isn't a bad thing
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Ah, I'm not the only one that breaks Guardians then!!!
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