Really tempted to make a comment about a teacher making such a post… but then I remembered there are some places in the world where you get shot for trying to go to school as a female so I won't...
The male mind loves filling itself with useless statistics.
Imply that statistics are not for female minds. I suspect that never even occurred to you when you posted, which indicates an inherent prejudice.
If what miranda says is true and you're a teacher, I sincerely hope that you don't take that prejudice into the classroom when you teach.
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
@cameronphillips2000, that's an interesting link, and I'm glad you posted it... but, I very nearly didn't find it because of it's title. I'm a female statistician, and in my industry, there are (significantly) more of us than our male counterparts, so I struggle to see your point of view.
After all it is free
After all it is free
I deliberately posted the title to provoke thought. I deliberately put 'male mind' not men.
As a Physics teacher I was saddened by the amount of females taking Physics. I also taught one of the few subjects where boys outperformed boys.
I did a lot training on brain sex for this reason and, when I was a senior manager introduced things like girl/boy seating plans throughout the school for a long list of well researched reasons.
I could write pages on this but I'll try and be very concise.
Everyone is an individual and unique. We should not prejudice.
There is a general left/right male/female spectrum on which most people's brains generally lie
The left /female brain is more geared for communication / empathy / attention to detail / language amongst other things...
The right/male brain is more geared for logic / spatial awareness / amongst other things...
In general, the more male type brain tends to work one part of the brain at a time (zone in - oblivious to what's going on around them etc) whereas the female brain tends to work many parts at the same time (multi tasking etc and mixing emotion and logical when arguing etc)
Your brain sex can be quite different to your actual sex. 20% of females sit at the male end of the spectrum and vice versa. 60% of female Maths teachers are on the male side and 60% of male languages on the female side
There are tests you can do http://www.brainsexmatters.com/test.aspx
The index finger/ fourth finger ratio is scarily accurate when done with a group of work colleagues you know well. Male brainers generally have a longer fourth finger - apparently it's all to do with a testosterone release in the womb at four weeks...
The National Curriculum is strongly biased towards the female type brain - literacy / communication - this is reflected in national results where girls generally outperform boys.
the above is well researched and not my own thoughts. Google brain sex or Geoff Hannan.
Below is my 'point of view'
In some countries females are less valued and do net get educated. This is very sad. It is also the cause of population boom which is the core reason behind the world's environmental problems. Until we get equal women's rights, we have no chance of stabilising the planet's ecosytems.
In other areas of the world men have to be seen as resilient and good providers. Men die earlier from stress related illnesses and male suicide rates are alarmingly high.
In response to the comments my post, I think is sexist towards the male type mind. (I have male type mind) The male type mind is father happier immersed in a page of statistics than a novel. I would rather read the Guinness Book of Records than a novel which contains language, nuances, emotion etc. I am not proud of this - perhaps I should be but British society gives status and esteem to the female type brain and the well read in society whereas as the male brain types are often seen as geeks. Nobody sits at a dinner party and admits to not having read Shakespeare but it's ok to say 'I'm hopeless at Maths'
My daughter went to see Cinderella yesterday. This saddens me. A pretty lady in a dress, swept off her feet by a strong, handsome prince who'll provide for her. Both my son an daughter had an equal share of toy cars/tractors/pens/musical instruments/ cookers and hoovers. I've, hopefully, brought them up in a non sexist household.
I've always taught both boys and girls to use their minds, be ambitious, be sensitive and use their emotions.
I've had male and female bosses and appointed males and females to high positions. I've seen far more applications for high positions from men. I've seen large institutions dominated by alpha male type brains, much to the detriment of the institution. Unfortunately the competitive, male type ambitious minds are the ones who aspire and work hard to get to positions of 'power' and are probably the worst kind of minds to be there. I also know many many females who are simply not ambitious and don't want a high flying career. For most of my married life, I had a fairly well paid job and my wife did some part time work. It's the way she wanted it, not me. I offered to swap roles on many occasions. I honestly think there is too much pressure on men to aspire, achieve and be the providers.
Snowheads is hilariously dominated by male type minds. Full of stats, routes (skiing, driving, buses, trains) timetables (Lifts and transport) piste steepness, length, technique and how to improve it (A very male mind trait), competitiveness, showing who's the most knowledgeable, insensitivity, tactlessness, kit and equipment.....
I hope I've not offended people and provoked some thought.
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This thread is wonderfully 'male type mind' - a problem - who's the cleverest and knows most about the problem? - here's a solution - here's a better solution - no you don't understand the problem properly and so on. It's typical men speaking a the end of a dinner party: A problem/solution debate which proves the size of their testicles and the quality of genes that lie within........
In the context of brain gender rather than gender dimorphism, then, sure, your terminology is acceptable.
I have briefly googled Geoff Hannan and it's unclear what his qualifications are. Is he a scientist? He appears to be a trainer and a consultant. I think it's quite telling that his website states he is a "leading authority" with "unrivalled experience" and "international recognition" for his "training presentations and strategies he has developed for improving performance" but fails to state his education and qualifications.
While his hypothesis may have some basis in science, brain gender is complex. Neuroscience is quite clear that the plasticity of the brain means that brain gender is largely formed by environment, despite initial exposure to hormones in the womb. Even subsequent exposure to the 'opposite' hormone after the window in which brain gender and gender dimorphism is said to form can change it.
So it's not as simple as saying that someone either has one brain type or the other and that's that. Some interesting research has been done by neuroscientists in which boys and girls were dressed as the opposite gender, which resulted in them being treated as the opposite gender and, thus, formed the associated brain genders. Thus, boys dressed as girls were treated as girls and formed empathiser brains, and vice versa.
The terms 'female brain' and 'male brain' (in the context of brain gender) are, in themselves, a product of the perception of which sex has which type of brain. The terms ’empathiser brain' and 'systemiser brain' are more appropriate.
Huge but interesting thread drift.
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Geoff Hannan was an educational consultant who specialised in bridging the gender gap. He ran courses for teachers all over the UK. I went on a few and, to be honest, they were some of the best researched and most useful courses I've ever been on. He then did some work with the BBC who did a few documentaries on the subject. This was around the time the Mars and Venus book came out. He was a Deputy Headteacher but then specialised in research doing a couple of PHDs and training. He tells some interesting typical male and female stories where people in the room cringe as they totally identify with their brain sex behaviour. I remember one story about a typical male doing a DIY job, gettting totally immersed in it, being dragged away for dinner with his family but still having his mind totally immersed in it. Not being able to stop until it's completed it, dragging his wife out of bed to show her 'the kill' at 2 am and stand proudly next to his job, only for her 'attention to detail' female type mind to kick in and start criticising bits. Very funny but very true.
Some of the most interesting stuff was watching videos of males and female babies when they were presented with dolls. They did the same with male and female monkeys too. most of the females would hold and nurture whereas the males would try to use them as weapons to hit things with. As a teacher and pastoral leader for twenty years, the difference between the brain sexes was very noticeable amongst students, staff and parents too. I once worked in a large comp where a very sceptical old Assistant Head went one of Geoff Hannan's courses. It blew his mind so much he then booked him to come in and work wit the whole staff for a day. The day was hugely interesting and funny and made a lot of us think about our own behaviour and relationships. Over subsequent years, then school was one of very few to close the gender performance gap.
The BBC website used to have a brain sex test on it. Part of it was looking at various cartoon faces and guessing what mood they were feeling. It was about perception and empathy. I was very very bad. Right at the 'male' end of the spectrum. My wife found this rather amusing and said it was spot on. I also have very large fourth fingers...
I'm not sure how much genetic and environmental factors affect people's personalities. As a parent, I was shocked by how totally different my two were from the day dot, despite very similar environments.
Perhaps empathiser and systemiser are more appropriate terms these days. The systemiser, like myself, will very much like the initial link. I get very upset when piste maps don't have little tables in the corner telling you the length and elevation of each lift. When I clocked in my Dolomiti Supski pass on their website at the end of my holiday and it gave me a statistical analysis of my skiing that week it was almost as enjoyable as the skiing....
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
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When I clocked in my Dolomiti Supski pass on their website at the end of my holiday and it gave me a statistical analysis of my skiing that week it was almost as enjoyable as the skiing....
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Sad but true. The Ski Tracks App is pure porn to me too.
You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
I was astonished by the difference between my first two kids too.. One wanted to be cuddled all the time, the other didn't. One was very sensitive to even the mildest telling off, the other ignored it and kept doing his own thing. One started speaking at the usual age, the other very late. One was a LEGO fanatic, the other preferred make believe with lots of stuffed toys. One behaved well always in school, the other was often in trouble. One is competitive, the other not, though probably more able in most endeavours. One very good at maths, the other not so gifted. Both exceptionally literate.
And both boys.
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Sorry if it seems a bit off topic now but, referring to the report in the OP.
I was struck by the apparent scale of indoor slope usage in the UK. The bar on the graph seems to suggest 1.6/1.7 million skier days per annum.
Between the 6 slopes, that would be an average of 750 skiers per slope per day.
Given the max capacity of each is about 150pax, we're looking at each slope turning over their full capacity 5 times a day, every day of the year - I can't see that being the case. They may do that perhaps a few weekends at the start of the Winter but certainly not year-round.
It gives the source as "Snowhunter" which I believe is Patrick Thorne - I wonder if he could shed light on how these numbers came to be?
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I found some of the stats fascinating. I didn't realise just how big the Japanese ski industry is. I was was quite surprised to see Alta Badia quite so high up the rankings in terms of visitors. It is well above some major name resorts. I was also amused by the bit about lifts planned out of Cortina to link with the Sella Ronda - via Falzarego, the hidden Valley and the horse drawn lift - and then no lift back up to Falzarego again. Romantic, if nothing else...
Judging by your stats analysis Admin, you're definitely a right brainer....
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Well I don't know about that - my index finger is longer than my fourth... or not, depending how I hold them
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Well I don't know about that - my index finger is longer than my fourth... or not, depending how I hold them
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