 Poster: A snowHead
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I must replace my beloved 203cm Rossignol 4SVs and despite exhaustive searching in this forum and the catalogues am bewildered by the choice. Please help me pick the right ski type and length.
I am on approximately level 8 Snow & Rock, 6' (181cm) tall, 13st (82kg). I am an experienced (25+yrs skiing), stylish, skier and like to be in perfect control - 90% of the people on the mountain always look out of control to me - but I'm not particularly fast. If powder is available I will ski it but most of my skiing will be on piste and there I like to short swing down the fall line or edge of the piste. I don't care for hardpack but 30cm of new snow or porridge is no problem.
When I've tried to test newer genre skis in resort, I've been disappointed by limited range available and not liked what I've been given.
A friend who knows my style well is suggesting Bandit B2 but Volk Allstar also sounds good to me - what do you recommend and what length? Thanks in advance for your advice.
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parrotman, with your experience, I think the B2 might be a bit soft. I'd suggest the Atomic Metron B5 or Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel, and probably around a 170cm length.
Could I also suggest that once you get them, you take either a few group lessons, or at least one private lesson, so you can start to pick up some of the differences in ski technique that allow you to get more out of the newer ski shapes.
Oh, and welcome to 
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parrotman,
Welcome to
Sounds like a few generations of skis have passed by here...
The Volkl's sound good as do the Nordica's that the Fox mentions. but the key thing is that you may have
some ski skill updating to do here as well so try and pick a ski that is not out and out new school. You may need a ski that can skid a
bit, depends on your techique, but I would guess that the 4s' take a lot more work that the newer skis.
To give you an idea of skis that you might want to research/demo, I'd say, on you notes above..
K2 Apache, recon and crossfire
Nordica... as above top fuel, XBS etc.
Volkls
Dynastar 4800
And then there are good Atomics and Ficsher's but someone else will have to post about them...
You have quite a choice
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| parrotman wrote: |
I like to short swing down the fall line or edge of the piste. I don't care for hardpack but 30cm of new snow or porridge is no problem.
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Welcome parrotman! Sounds like you like your skis a little bit damp with a bit of rebound off the tail?
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| And then there are good Atomics and Ficsher's but someone else will have to post about them... |
SX:10, GS:9, Diran should work with his current technique, possibly even M:EX
but, more importantly parrotman, how recent are your boots?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Welcome parrotman! Sounds like you like your skis a little bit damp with a bit of rebound off the tail?
SX:10, GS:9, Diran should work with his current technique, possibly even M:EX
but, more importantly parrotman, how recent are your boots?
Yes, indeed, I do like the rebound off the tail - so short swinging down the fall line is like winding up and then releasing a spring on each turn. No worries about the boots, just 2 seasons old and a reasonable compromise between comfort and performance - well able to drive the skis with this kind of skiing style. Thanks to everubody for the advice so far.
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parrotman, when you wind the spring up, do you do it by reaching far downhill with the poles?
EDIT: Forgot to ask, how do you feel about moguls?
Last edited by You'll need to Register first of course. on Tue 27-12-05 20:47; edited 1 time in total
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| comprex wrote: |
parrotman, when you wind the spring up, do you do it by reaching far downhill with the poles?
EDIT: Forgot to ask, how do you feel about moguls? |
No, I would not say I'm reaching far downhill with the poles unless on something exceptionally steep. I guess I am unweighting then weighting the skis quite aggressively, forcing them into pronounced negative camber through the turn, steering with the knees. I like moguls if the snow is good and will go and look for them. I have a tidy, if undramatic, two-footed technique through them. 
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parrotman,
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I've tried short carvers I found them horribly unstable at even modest speed
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The trouble with carvers is that you have to keep them....carving 
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| parrotman wrote: |
| 155? I don't want to go too short, I'm quite a big bloke and when I've tried short carvers I found them horribly unstable at even modest speed.[/color] |
As I said above, I think 170 would be about right for you (anywhere 165 - 172 ish), and please, have a couple of lessons!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Wear The Fox Hat, it sounds like he's pretty well balanced and good at soft-edge drifts, reckon a 4800 in 178cm would be too long for lessons?
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You know it makes sense.
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easiski, have you tried the im 72? How available would something like that be in Mottaret?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| comprex wrote: |
| Wear The Fox Hat, it sounds like he's pretty well balanced and good at soft-edge drifts, reckon a 4800 in 178cm would be too long for lessons? |
Possibly not, BUT... If he goes for a longer ski, he may spend more time skiing it in the old style. This may make him feel that the newer skis aren't worth it, because they offer nothing new, but are just worse than the old.
If he goes shorter, then he will be almost forced into changing his style to get the better performance out of the skis. Perhaps after a couple of years, then maybe go up to a 178, but not necessarily. (all I've done is go shorter each time as my technique has improved)
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Poster: A snowHead
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Everybody - thank you for responding and your advice. There is still a huge range from which to choose but I have a much better idea now, at the very least about what NOT to choose. I shall indeed take some private tuition on converting 'old school' to 'new school'.
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