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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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No, but I'm not keen on anything that gives me a really good chance of knackering the ski when I do it wrong.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'd be well up for one of those, if they work!
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@jbob, Yep, that's what I'm thinking. A friend has just ordered one so I'll let you know how they get on. They know their business so should be able to give a reasonable take.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Not so sure, in theory yes, but if you snag the tool on the binding or something while grinding the edge, it's toast...........
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What's the problem it's trying to solve though?
Edge tuning isn't very time consuming, even setting the edges doesn't take too long. I'm never too keen on variable edge guides either; they tend to move.
I know why I use electric brushes, but can't see the attraction here.
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Not for me I like to stroke my skis... a lot 
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looks like a winner to me, don't see any reasons it would kill your skis unless you are a bit useless with your hands it's supposed to be set to take a tiny amount off so unless you ignore this and cant set 2 screws to a certain height it seems fairly fool proof, no more difficult than not pressing really hard when using a file
I think the adjustability is a bonus as it's done well so no reason for it to get sloppy as it does next to nothing once you set the angles
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let us know how you get on... after years of manual tuning I am seriously considering a wintersteiger or similar...
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| let us know how you get on... after years of manual tuning I am seriously considering a wintersteiger or similar... |
I have a Wintersteiger for sale if you are interested.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@stewart woodward, why you selling? curious as the few guys I know who have em seem to love em ??
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You know it makes sense.
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| @stewart woodward, why you selling? curious as the few guys I know who have em seem to love em ?? |
They are very good but once I get my edges sharp I just diamond file them DAILY to keep them in a good condition.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Resurrecting an old thread. I notice at Silksworth at the weekend a lot of the top racers were using the Wintersteiger. It does seem to really sharpen the edges and at £325 so it should! I can't justify spending that sort of money but the EdgeTune Pro II can be had for about half that price plus you get a Dremel tool that could be put to other use.
Since this thread was started did anyone actually buy a EdgeTune?
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Poster: A snowHead
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been using one for a couple of years now, one main advantage that when racing on plastic theyre a lot quicker than hand file, the wintersteiger is fine but more liable to 'wobble' in inexperienced hands.
still use diamond to polish, abd hand tools when we have a lot of time, but to get 8-10 racers sorted between runs these are brilliant.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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A couple guys I race train with have wintesteigers, they are pretty quick to do an edge but you need to change wheels on them. the coarse wheel gets a shop grind finish and the ceramic or fine stone gives a sharper edge but wears out quickly apparently.... If I was on plastic I would get one but for snow skiing not so sure... The SnowGlide looks the Daddy but much more expensive. Quite a few WC race techs using them last season in the car park from what I could see
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@iskar, I finally got my hands on one today. There has been a delay in them coming from the USA. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but so far I seem to be blunting the edges rather than sharpening them and I've also ended up with a couple of blisters near the edge form, I guess, bringing it down too quick and not moving it. Thankfully I was doing my sons dryslope training skis so Not too bothered.
I'm getting a bot confused about how best to position it on the ski. The video on their website and the instructions book seem to differ.
Any suggestions.
P.S. How long does your Dremel battery last? Mine has been on charge 3 times already and I've only done 1 pair of skis!
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@Gaza, I haven't got one but have watched the vids... I think I'd be tempted with following the video instruction rather than the written.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Gaza wrote: |
@iskar, I finally got my hands on one today. There has been a delay in them coming from the USA. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but so far I seem to be blunting the edges rather than sharpening them and I've also ended up with a couple of blisters near the edge form, I guess, bringing it down too quick and not moving it. Thankfully I was doing my sons dryslope training skis so Not too bothered.
I'm getting a bot confused about how best to position it on the ski. The video on their website and the instructions book seem to differ.
Any suggestions.
P.S. How long does your Dremel battery last? Mine has been on charge 3 times already and I've only done 1 pair of skis! |
firstly, my dremel seems to last a long time, I also have a spare battery, have you got the right rpm's??
secondly, set the correct angle with the clip and sticky bits, then I tend to hold the base of the dremel by my thumb and use my fingers to hold the actual edgetune plate against the ski, then (check the lug things are actually flexing and not holding the stone off the skis, I let the dremel drive itself along the side of the ski. after some practice it works really well.
my only problem now is the replacement stones seem to be a bit bigger and wont fit the hole in the edge tune!!!!
hope that helps
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Thanks @iskar. The new version has dispensed with the strips and sticky bits and now uses 'wheels'. The video for your version suggests using a pronounced forward lean so the front edge of the stone is lower than the rear. I tried this last night and it seems to make a better job.
The instructions recommend 25-35k RPM and that's what I'm using. What do you use?
I ordered a spare battery from Amazon. I found out that the BOSCH 10.8v product is identical to the Dremel battery but is 2.0 A/h compared to 1.3 A/h so hopefully it will last longer. They do a 4.0 A/h version but it looks a bit big and bulky so would probably affect the handing and feel.
I might try to procure an old pair of skis from somewhere to practise on.
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Couldn't resist another go. I decided on a 'less is more' approach and pulled the RPM back to around 23k. I also made sure the ceramic stone was properly dressed with the dressing stone. It has made an enormous difference. Although they say you don't need to do anything after using the tool I gave them a quick run over with a 600 grit diamond file. The edges are now razor sharp and the marks I put on them last night have gone.
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@AndAnotherThing.., @Gaza, ...I love new gadgets. My specialist wax iron ... Brilliant.
IPhone .... Excellent.
This...really unclear what problem it is trying to solve.
It seems rather risky, compared with hand-tuning. I like hand tuning since I can keep the edges really sharp by sharpening frequently, but get the edges to last since I am doing it very carefully, and taking off only what I need. And still I have run out of edge on some skis.
I certainly DO groan when I have eight pairs of skis to prep - I do then I think of what else I would be doing, and frequently what I would be doing - cleaning the bathroom, cooking a more complex supper etc - is not exactly edifying. So do I gain THAT much by speeding everything up ....I mean really gain. And gain more than I lose? Actually I don't think so.
So I will still handtune, using some tools which are 20 years old - like my Arkensas stones - and don't have the replacement-part problem which seems to afflict this device.
That's a 'no' then.
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@valais2, it's about frequency and speed. When you (or more accurately your kids) are training/racing on Dendix the edges last 2 runs: if you are lucky. These tools can be taken to the slopes and skis can be sharpened between runs if necessary. The problem with files is they tend to take off a fair bit of material. With continual sharpening the skis won't last long. Powered sharpeners that use ceramic stones take off much less material so the concern about frequent sharpening is reduced.
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@Gaza, that's really interesting. When I looked at the USA sites on the tool there were complaints of burrs - which suggested that these take off far more than files...I assumed that with 35k rpm and a ceramic disc they would take off more ... But I think you are saying that they take off less?
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you can set the tool to how much it takes off, ive never had trouble with burring (sounds like the tool is being incorrectly used) and having done both hand and dremel the skis seem to last as long as each other, we do a lot of plastic racing as well.
As Gaza said its the speed between runs especially that helps.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@valais2, this is the claim the manufacturers make. It is similar to that made by Wintersteiger etc:-
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Will the grinding stone damage or remove too much edge material?
No. The EdgeTune™ Pro II bracket precise adjustment screws that guard against uneven or excessive edge grinds... all that is required are smooth, gentle strokes of the tool along the edge (ie, simply let the tool do the work). The ceramic stone is a very fine #600 grit (like fine emery cloth) and removes only a few thousandths of an inch per pass... significantly less material removal than a sharp hand file. The ceramic stone also has extremely low heat generation, preventing any edge steel material tempering. Edge durability is enhanced through slight work hardening, which is true of all grinders. |
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