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Hey all,
Seem to be having bad luck last 2 years. I was in St Anton last January and had pretty shocking conditions. Barely got to do any off piste and when I did it was just full of icy moguls, barely any powder and we didn't get a single dump the whole time I was there, just a little dusting.
I'm living in absolute fear at the moment as I'm all booked up me and a buddy 2 weeks 26 Dec - Jan 10 and so far its 6 degrees at the bottom of Galzigbahn, rainy/foggy, not a snowflake in sight!
Snow report for next 2 weeks is abysmal and they've pushed back the opening of the lifts until the 12th, that sounds highly unlikely also.
So question is, lot of money invested in this trip already and unfortunately lack of snow doesn't cut it for insurance so what are my options? Any ideas?
Maybe some other resorts nearby that are seeing some action? Theres always a chance it could dump before we get there but how mild the weather is this year it seems really unlikely.
I was there about 4 year ago and it absolutely dumped on us and I had the greatest time, seems to be a sketchy time of year though based on last year/this year.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Wayfarer, Mate, thats 3 weeks away..........chill! I'll be there shortly after you've gone and I need folks like you to create a base for me.....it'll be fine, always is, read Bergfex, its your friend.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 3-12-14 16:37; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If you're the kind who takes comfort in forecasts - light accumulation over the weekend, with heavier snow and lower temperatures next week.
or not.
one of those.
Stay calm.
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Theres always a chance it could dump before we get there but how mild the weather is this year it seems really unlikely.
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Past weather is no indication of future weather, certainly not in predicting 3 weeks+ away.
As the others say, its way to early to get worried. One/two days of heavy snow can change everything. Plus the temperature will cool down so even if snow is lacking off-piste they can turn on the machines for the piste. Not the same I know, but not a total disaster.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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+1 for Chill - on the bright side if no snow comes you will not be alone and the bars will be open.
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seems to be a sketchy time of year
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...and has been since Alpine skiing was invented.
On a more optimistic note, it was significantly colder in Geneva this morning than it has been and forecasts are looking positive.
Snow is skewed in that it can get very much better very quickly but (usually) only goes off slowly (once it's accumulated).
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Hey all, thanks for the quick replies and votes of confidence. I guess I'm just freaking out as I always save up all year for my trips. St Anton's not the cheapest resort! I just think world climate in general seems to be all over the place these days, don't you agree? We didn't get any snow in UK at all last winter just rain, it was really mild. This years pretty mild also, I was walking around London in a T Shirt the other day because my coat was too hot!
Then theres Buffalo and New York, I just got back from running the marathon out there. Now its under 4 metres of snow! Does make you think about the whole climate change argument. Weather is all over the place.
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The Fohn will blow away before the weekend.
Temprrature will be dropping to negative in day time & very cold
at night. The cannons will be on 24/7.
Snow is expected. Some on Saturday. Monday & Tuesday
should bring heavier falls of snow.
Next annoucment from the Lift Company will be Tuesday Dec 9th.
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Dah!, it'll be fine within a fortnight.
What a doom merchant! 
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Hey all, thanks for the quick replies and votes of confidence. I guess I'm just freaking out as I always save up all year for my trips. St Anton's not the cheapest resort! I just think world climate in general seems to be all over the place these days, don't you agree? We didn't get any snow in UK at all last winter just rain, it was really mild. This years pretty mild also, I was walking around London in a T Shirt the other day because my coat was too hot!
Then theres Buffalo and New York, I just got back from running the marathon out there. Now its under 4 metres of snow! Does make you think about the whole climate change argument. Weather is all over the place. |
1. You have two options: Panic! Or wait - winter is a little late, but that means nothing at this stage. You'd have been thinking the same this time last year if you were going to the Southern Alps, then look what happened from late December.
2. There was plenty of snow in the UK last winter - Scotland got MAD amounts.
3. There's a big difference between weather and climate.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ahh Scotland's a given, I should have been a bit clearer, I mean down in the wee Midlands where I'm from.
Difference between climate and weather, not sure what you mean? Surely they go hand in hand? i.e. Climate changes, so does the weather. Don't you think weather is getting more unpredictable and extreme than it has been in the past? Surely that is due to change in world climate? I can't profess to be a geographer I'm just going on the status quo here.
And I feel at ease now seeing as 9 separate people have told me to chill!
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| Scotland's a given |
...I wish...
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You know it makes sense.
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@Wayfarer, but the rate of change and general scales are so wildly and chaotically different that they are somewhat unrelated given human failings and biases.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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seems to be a sketchy time of year
...and has been since Alpine skiing was invented.
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people keep forgetting this and, swayed by "resort opening dates" and very cheap holiday offers seem to be thinking that skiing at the end of November and early December is quite predictably OK. It isn't, except in a few places. Even Christmas/New Year is more of a gamble than later in the season. Then people start talking about the second half of March as "late season", which it isn't. Easter, even when it's fairly late, is generally a better bet for snow than Christmas in many places.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@pam w,
I agree, but I am a Jan/Feb guy. Biting cold and dark by 5pm, that's my kinda skiing. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Haha I second that Mollerski, not a fan of the slush.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Ahh Scotland's a given, I should have been a bit clearer, I mean down in the wee Midlands where I'm from.
Difference between climate and weather, not sure what you mean? Surely they go hand in hand? i.e. Climate changes, so does the weather. Don't you think weather is getting more unpredictable and extreme than it has been in the past? Surely that is due to change in world climate? I can't profess to be a geographer I'm just going on the status quo here.
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I used to live in Leamington Spa, and don't remember it snowing every year there (more like one in three?)...
A changing climate will certainly affect weather, but you can't call unpredictable/changing weather climate change unless it's been a trend for over 50 years. Weather is short term stuff, climate is looooooong term.
But no, I don't think weather's been getting particularly more extreme recently. Massive floods/snowstorms/droughts (ice ages...) have plaugued humanity/the world for quite a while. I think we just tend to forget them until the next one, then it's 'shock horror' again.
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| Wayfarer wrote: |
| Haha I second that Mollerski, not a fan of the slush. |
Or sweat. 
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Can't remember who said it but
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Climate is what you expect and weather is what you get
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I once arrived in Lech to rain but 24 hours later the temp. dropped to -10 and it snowed and snowed. Chill. A day is along time in the mountains.
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