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biddpyat wrote:
Don't know why anyone bothers with googles except on white outs, I just like googles for those can't see your hand in front of you days


Couple of reasons for me. Firstly my eyes will water very heavily if I don't wear some sort of protection, to an extent that's just dangerous. Secondly I have fair skin and prone to sunburn. Rather than messing around with cream and the like it's easier to just whack on some UV goggles and a buff.

Recently got a set of Bolle Gravity but not had the chance to wear them yet. Being a warm and sweaty type chap I suspect that I'll still have fogging issues, but hopefully better than the previous set that weren't from any brand I've heard of and would mist up if I got without 12 yards of them, let alone put them on my face.
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Thanks for the tips guys.

Oakley A Frames seem to be my top choice so far
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I'm trying to hint to my family to get me a flashy pair of OTG type goggles with see in the dark lens with a make that I can get a replacement for.

But my son says ... "what happened to the pair I bought you last year?"
I did not have the heart to tell him I didn't want black ones!


But I find that goggles always fail, I was lucky enough to get a "Blue Bird" day after a storm at Lake Louise yesterday ... but it was -27
Every spot of flesh was covered up which means the mask pushes moisture up onto the inside of the lens and freezes.

In the end I just took the goggles off and let my eye lashes ice up.

I've been using the goggles today as well ... but on the snowmobile, the most important part then is to stop the low branches from taking your eye out.
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@bezthespaniard
The A frames are a good choice ... get "pesimon" lens it give a nice pink tinge which makes even crap weather look rosy
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Persimmon or Hi Yellow?

These goggles are mainly for bad weather
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@foxtrotzulu, Well, it's not so much of a case that I'm happy in goggles, as that I have to wear them due to my sinus issue. But I figure, since I HAVE to wear them, I may as well be happy in them Smile

@irie, No two pairs of eyes are the same, so it's great that you found a tint that you are happy with in almost all conditions. Which is really what it's all about - finding what works for YOU.
Speaking of beer... That can also be used as a goggle, of sorts! If I have a couple too many, wherever I look, everything seems prettier (strictly talking about the mountain views now, you understand) Wink

@biddpyat, Can't speak for the others, could be just a preference, but goggles do alleviate sinus problems (at least for me). I've also got a great pair of photochromic shades, but they only come out when I sit down for a quick bite or tea Sad
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I've just noticed these are coming onto Amazon at 8:10 tonight Smith Transit Pro Goggles - White Mariposa, they're £70 now but they might be reduced a bit tonight. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GGC18DO/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_QNgFub0646E54?tag=amz07b-21
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@bezthespaniard, Switched to Hi Yellow from Persimmon last year and they are better, but you won't get much reduction in good light, so an alt. lens might be a wise investment or go for Persimmon as a good compromise lens.
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@gad, I get migraines. I have Smith goggles with 2 different lenses. The low light lense has a slight bluish hue and I haven't noticed that they bring on a migraine. I tend to check the weather forecast and put in whichever lense best suits the prediction - of course conditions can change in a second but I find I can manage quite well with either of the lenses I have. I have previously only had cheap goggles with an orange hue and absolutely love the clarity of the Smith's which were a gift. As for migraines I am prescribed Frovatriptan which works well for me.
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biddpyat wrote:
Don't know why anyone bothers with googles except on white outs, I just like googles for those can't see your hand in front of you days

Kind of what they said - if you're riding fast enough, like on a bike, without some eye protection you're not going to be able to see.

If you're riding in trees then whatever your speed you'll need something to keep the stuff out of your eyes.

For storms, goggles work where sunglasses don't, which other than the face protection thing is why many people wear them. It's hard to get sunglasses which work sensibly in mountain conditions, in my experience - most let in too much light.

But it's all good - wear what you like.
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I have Oakley's with persimmons lenses and find these decent in all conditions. When it is warm and blue skies i do tend to just wear oakley sunglasses.
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Don't know why anyone bothers with googles except on white outs, I just like googles for those can't see your hand in front of you days


What phil said.

Personally I find I can see better in decent goggles than with sunnies - it's a combination of keeping the wind out of my eyes and the breadth of the lens - frames don't interfere. I don't have problems with them steaming up unless I manage to get snow inside or after a particularly steamy bubble ride - either way a high speed blast clears them out. I only ski in sunglasses when it's really hot late season or I'm touring. Don't see the downside myself.
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oh and they do look much better with a ski helmet. not that I'm shallow Embarassed
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@jedster, OK, now this is about to get very embarassing. Embarassed Picture the scene - I've just spent the last five minutes sitting at desk in the office wearing first goggles, then sunglasses. Goggles, sunglasses.... goggles sunglasses. Thank goodness nobody walked in Very Happy

The result of my highly technical research is that sunglasses have a significantly better field of vision. Now, I'll happily accept that there are goggles with a wider field than mine but I was comparing 'standard' goggles with 'standard' skiing sunglasses (padded). As I say, the difference was obvious. While the goggles have bigger lenses they also sit much further in front of the eyes so what they gain on the one hand they more than lose on the other. Quod erat demonstrandum Toofy Grin Try it and see if you disagree.

Padded sunglasses do also keep the wind out of your eyes pretty well. In really cr@p weather goggles win hands down, but in anything less it's little more than just a question of taste.
Can one see 'better' with goggles? When you remopve the 'environmental issues' of wind, cold and snow then I think that's unlikely. The hard lenses of even the cheaper sunglasses is likely to be optically superior to the flexible lenses of even the better goggles. One presumes the orange tint is better is flat light but I can't honestly say I've ever noticed much difference when changing over.
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FTZ - fair point - my goggles are pretty big with spherical type lens, smaller goggles will have some limit to field of view
By padded sunglasses do you mean glacier glasses - the ones with leather "hoods" at the side and the bridge? Haven't seen anyone skiing in them for ages! Always though they tended to be a bit dark given they were meant to protect you from very bright conditions (like summer glacier travel). I guess they will keep the wind out of your eyes quite well.
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@jedster,
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By padded sunglasses do you mean glacier glasses - the ones with leather "hoods" at the side and the bridge?


No, I didn't mean them. They were very cool (back in about 1986 Very Happy)

I meant sungglasses like this:


http://www.uksportseyewear.co.uk/product.php/130/ski-glasses-goggles-interchangeable-lenses

or these which are a bit more 'rad'Very Happy

http://www.greatsunglasses.co.uk/arctica-cyclone-winter-sport-sunglasses-ski-glasses-anti-fog-1733858133
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Anyone yet with comparisons of summit evolve vs anon m2? Anon is a bit more expensive, Even if I have the summit shipped to states. Thx!!
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No. Just spent a week or so with some photochromic goggles and they are great - no more carrying a spare lens for me. Perfect from early morning gloom through blue sky. These are Zeiss lenses, so no optical issues there.

You will not see anyone riding a storm in the back country with sunglasses. I would consider someone without goggles a significant safety risk; they aren't really optional.
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I'm really impressed with my Anon goggles, they never steam up, ever. Pre-helmet I used to wear sunglasses and they steamed up all the time and the wind got behind them and made my eyes stream!

I only wear sunglasses now if it's lunchtime and I'm sitting in the sun, and in any case, sunglasses look daft with helmets.
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Yeah, I really want a pair of the anon m2" but they're so expensive. @honeybunny, what color lens did you get? Not sure how to decide on the main lens color.
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Another vote for Anon M2s, bought them due to the recommendation earlier on this thread.

1 week in, and not steamed up once, my previous Uvex goggles regularly steamed up, so I'm very happy.

The magnet lenses are easy to change, I have the standard ones it came with, been using mainly the lighter ones as most pistes I've been skiing have not faced the sun. I've found that I get better vis of the snow conditions with the lenses rather than just the naked eye.
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@Redwine, If you can wait, I'll be hitting the slopes on the 3rd of Jan so can let you know what the Summits are like. I won't be able to compare them directly with the Anon's though as I haven't owned them, but I'll be able to tell you whether they steam up or not, how the lenses perform in various lighting conditions etc.

The lens change is equally easy on either (tried them both in the shop) and the FOV seemed all but identical. It was suggested here on the forum that the lenses for Summit goggles are made by Cebe, which helped make my mind to buy them.

In the UK they're almost half the price of the Anon's (£90 vs £170), so giving them a go was a no brainer.
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biddpyat wrote:
Don't know why anyone bothers with googles except on white outs, I just like googles for those can't see your hand in front of you days


My glass eye would freeze.

Kind of unusual situation though. Happy
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Have a look at these http://www.melonoptics.co.uk Bought a pair last year with the additional low light lens and they were fab. Good field of vision and were good at keeping the misting away. Definitely gives the high end brands a run for their money!
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ok so I see why some wear goggles all the time, but if you invest in proper ski glasses instead of sunglasses, you don't really need goggles except for white outs, I have proper ski glasses. They look far less like a frog face.
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trainee snowboard jedi wrote:
Umm, this thread is very confusing, I am still none the wiser on what set of goggles to buy!

I have learnt that mine steam up because I'm fat though Smile

Does anyone know anything about Smiths? I've heard that they're quite good.

the simple fact is that there is no simple answer. Everyone is different, what works for you may be useless for someone with a different shaped face.
If you are misting up a lot, don't plant your face in the snow and look for something with an anti fog lens and good ventilation between the lens and your face.
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To echo @foxtrotzulu, a long way above. Put your goggles on (buy ones which fit well, with plenty of ventilation and double lenses) and KEEP THEM ON. Take them off at lunchtime and at end of play. If you do this, your goggles are much less likely to fog up - remember, the water on the inside of the goggles comes from you, and causes fog when it hits cold goggles. Keep 'em on, you keep 'em warm and fog free.
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I swear by my Smith I/OS goggles in every condition, they are flawless even 4 full seasons down the line (over 100 days skiing each yr).

The critical thing which I've seen very few mention here is TRY THEM ON. No point getting a flash pair only to find they don't fit your face, don't create a seal, get steamed up, allow wind in to make your eyes water, etc etc.
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Carrera's , they mesh perfectly with my choice of helmet (also Carrera) so no cold gap on my forehead, colour rendition is excellent with Carrera's lenses in general . Cebe's very durable, double layer lenses , good rugged frames . I find a wide ,unimpeded field of vision important, I don't need to see the frame. Given that a pair of goggles fit well then it's they colour of the lens that determines my choice on any given day. I always carry a spare generally with a different colour lens , a get me home but always handy if the light conditions change radically during the day.
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tillywhim wrote:
@gad, I get migraines. I have Smith goggles with 2 different lenses. The low light lense has a slight bluish hue and I haven't noticed that they bring on a migraine. I tend to check the weather forecast and put in whichever lense best suits the prediction - of course conditions can change in a second but I find I can manage quite well with either of the lenses I have. I have previously only had cheap goggles with an orange hue and absolutely love the clarity of the Smith's which were a gift. As for migraines I am prescribed Frovatriptan which works well for me.

I've took on board what you're saying about the blue lenses so I've been on the hunt for either some for my a frames or do I take the plunge and get the smith io's Puzzled
I've got the fire iridium lens, a brown lens and the persimmon lens which I simply can't wear, decisions, decisions!
Any one want to sell me a blue lens Toofy Grin
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My experience suggests that spending anything more than about £50 on a pair of goggles buys you little more than a brand name and some pseudo innovations.
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@Redwine, If you can wait, I'll be hitting the slopes on the 3rd of Jan so can let you know what the Summits are like. I won't be able to compare them directly with the Anon's though as I haven't owned them, but I'll be able to tell you whether they steam up or not, how the lenses perform in various lighting conditions etc.

The lens change is equally easy on either (tried them both in the shop) and the FOV seemed all but identical. It was suggested here on the forum that the lenses for Summit goggles are made by Cebe, which helped make my mind to buy them.

In the UK they're almost half the price of the Anon's (£90 vs £170), so giving them a go was a no brainer.


Just wondering how you got on with these?

Ta
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glasgowcyclops wrote:
biddpyat wrote:
Don't know why anyone bothers with googles except on white outs, I just like googles for those can't see your hand in front of you days


My glass eye would freeze.

Kind of unusual situation though. Happy


And a great username to match.

I have a pair of Bolle Modulators after asking a similar question last year. Work well but I only use them in absolute awful conditions. Sun glasses all day long for me.
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