 Poster: A snowHead
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Plot thickens, more popcorn needed.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@ansta1, Get a round in for me too please mate, 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@skison, don't you know by now I have special inside information?  . I really don't remember - maybe I saw it on the basi members FB page but I don't think it said much if any more. |
Well if you walk like an associate of a BASI board member and talk like an associate of a BASI board member then what's a Snowheads poster to think?
I'm quite sure you alluded to inside contacts somewhere in this thread and don't think you ever denied being Stephen Burke when someone put the question to you.
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Here y'go, plenty of popcorn. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@irie, cheers, I've put some beers in the fridge, help yourself.
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@thecramps Thanks dude! 
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@thecramps, I've just ordered a pizza take away 
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Bug.ger, now I'll have to look for a pizza smiley! 
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Here y'go. 
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Hmm. The evil criminal mastermind politely came on here and talked reasonably about what's happening. The pro-BASI camp has resolutely declined to address the issue whilst throwing mud around, hiding behind their apparent anonymity.
But no one's truly anonymous. The IP address of every post made here is on file. It doesn't take much forensic work and a little correlation to find most people.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@skison, If he is Stephen Burke, does he get £5?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Well, you can if you are the ISP or law enforcement. Most people's IP address changes every time their router restarts so actually it isn't easy to correlate IP address to identity. And with a bit of determination and a bit of nouse, anyone can proxy through other addresses. Fun fact, apparently 20% of retail drug deals are now done over the internet. Bet most of them are using proxies.
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@dogwatch, easier than some people imagine, in particular if you are the owner of the domain that is then end recipient of the traffic.
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You know it makes sense.
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| dogwatch wrote: |
| Most people's IP address changes every time their router restarts so actually it isn't easy to correlate IP address to identity. |
Not really the case these days. IIRC most/all of BT are static addresses, virgin cable is 'fixed' which is static but may change when the reconfig the network. It's the external ip that is used, not the internal pc ip which may change more often.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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not kicked off yet, beer, popcorn or pizza anyone?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| martinm wrote: |
| dogwatch wrote: |
| Most people's IP address changes every time their router restarts so actually it isn't easy to correlate IP address to identity. |
Not really the case these days. IIRC most/all of BT are static addresses, virgin cable is 'fixed' which is static but may change when the reconfig the network. It's the external ip that is used, not the internal pc ip which may change more often. |
I can't help feeling that a discussion on how to identify the user of the IP address might be more interesting than the current discussion which seems to oscillate between something about 'SB and his BASI status' and the 'is he or is he not a troll' discussion about TT.
More popcorn please!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@tarrantd, beer?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| thecramps wrote: |
| @tarrantd, beer? |
Just about run out of wine, so why not.
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@ansta1, why isn't it kicking off yet? all the ingredients are there. Getting sick of popcorn and pizza now.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| thecramps wrote: |
| @ansta1, why isn't it kicking off yet? all the ingredients are there. Getting sick of popcorn and pizza now. |
Probably because it's the same person using different puppets to keep the conversation going. They are doing will with separation of the various writing styles, buit if you look closely there is a trend. When it gets down to the 2 or 3 core 'personas' they really need to wait for a 3rd party injections into the conversation.
Forum chaso theroy and butterfly effect
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@ansta1, I had noticed, but hoped he was so argumentative he might disagree with himself.
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Beer sounds good.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| thecramps wrote: |
| @ansta1, why isn't it kicking off yet? all the ingredients are there. Getting sick of popcorn and pizza now. |
Time for a curry then?
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@musher, Mines chicken tikka masala, as orange as possible. #
And a peshwari naan
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| martinm wrote: |
| IIRC most/all of BT are static addresses |
Certainly not the case when I last took out a BT contract. I'd have had to pay significantly extra for a static address and I know for certain my external address changes when I restart the router or connection.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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BT's Plusnet subsidiary will give you a static IP for free, but in my experience most users sit on static addresses in practice. If you bounce your gatweway between posts and you have an ISP who reuse addresses quickly, you could in principle have different IP addresses, but for these purposes they'd all come from the same pool, so that's not hugely relevant either way unless you have access to the RADIUS logs, which would not be legal.
Hence I was thinking more of entirely *legal* but perhaps more subtle forensic work. For example...
Chances are the anonymous one posted somewhere else amongst three or four ski sites from the same location. He may have used different anonymous IDs, but the chances are that he'll have used his real ID somewhere, or provided enough information amongst the verbiage to work it out. You have a fair idea to start with who you're looking for, so that's not as hard as it may appear. You'd need IP addresses to start that: just find two posts on different forums with the same IP address and you're getting close. You can correlate with emails too, if you have some from likely sources.
Or do a reverse DNS lookup on all the target's IP addresses. That gives you a pattern of where they were and when, unless they were very careful. Then guess who the target could be and make a list of possible home (electoral register) and work (Linkedin etc) details. Find a match between those two data sets.
Other entirely open and legal approaches exist.
I guess I'm just saying that anonymity is a risky business.
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@skison, you are meant to think I am a basi member who occasionally has contact with basi insiders who make cryptic comments just like I'm sure lots of members do. I use basi for technical development and as it's very unlikely I will ever instruct and I'm not enjoying skiing at the moment I will likely leave and get no further info.
I'm most certainly not Stephen Burke and I'm most certainly don't agree with everyone and everything but as it is a large organisation with lots of different people and views that is never going to happen.
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You know it makes sense.
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I'm spartacus
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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No I'M Spartacus. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| philwig wrote: |
Hmm. The evil criminal mastermind politely came on here and talked reasonably about what's happening. The pro-BASI camp has resolutely declined to address the issue whilst throwing mud around, hiding behind their apparent anonymity.
But no one's truly anonymous. The IP address of every post made here is on file. It doesn't take much forensic work and a little correlation to find most people. |
The one thing in common is that we are all pro-BASI (I hope). The various debates and disagreements centre around how BASI operates/their actions/their decisions.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| tarrantd wrote: |
| martinm wrote: |
| dogwatch wrote: |
| Most people's IP address changes every time their router restarts so actually it isn't easy to correlate IP address to identity. |
Not really the case these days. IIRC most/all of BT are static addresses, virgin cable is 'fixed' which is static but may change when the reconfig the network. It's the external ip that is used, not the internal pc ip which may change more often. |
I can't help feeling that a discussion on how to identify the user of the IP address might be more interesting than the current discussion which seems to oscillate between something about 'SB and his BASI status' and the 'is he or is he not a troll' discussion about TT.
More popcorn please! |
Troll? Who?
If you mean TTT, I don't think TTT is a troll, I'm just suspicious of the info alluded to in some comments.
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| philwig wrote: |
| I guess I'm just saying that anonymity is a risky business. |
Like a case from the X-files.
I think some of you have picked up my suspicious, cynicism via the ether.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| ansta1 wrote: |
| I'm spartacus |
I'm Spartacus, and so's my wife
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Can this tread and it's entire content be summed up rather than sifting through 28 pages of popcorn?
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| homers double wrote: |
| Can this tread and it's entire content be summed up rather than sifting through 28 pages of popcorn? |
BASI Top brass: He's a very naughty boy & must be banished from the kingdom in fact we'll specifically banish him in public in front of all his peers because otherwise he'll make a scene Doh!
Lots of other people: Hang about what about due process? And what are the real facts behind the sequence of events that led to SB not having his Carte Pro which in turn enabled French prosecutors to have a stronger case against him?
BASI Top brass lovers: La la la can't hear you! Just an error.
UKIPers: We hate the French and everything EU
TTT: SB is the spawn of the devil and personally wants to stop each and every one of us in every career working in other EU countries. Oh & he's a criminal mastermind.
Lawyers advising both sides: Bonanza what a bunch of **** ups all round! Good job people are incapable of using the telephone to sort out differences.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, I think you are being unfair to SB. He is hardly a criminal mastermind given his numerous convictions on numerous occasions.
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28 pages on and still no Godwin's Law. 
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But we've had multiple invocations of Dacre's Law the more British equivalent.
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