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I'm heading out at the end of November to work my first ever ski season as a rep, been skiing before and after 5 years I would say I'm at the lower rung of being an intermediate. I've just got my confirmation that I will be placed in Rauris Austria, this could be subject to change but its very unlikely. First thoughts, YES!!! I finally know where I'm going and I can start researching the place before I get out there. After looking into the resort it seems to be one for the beginners and those who like to take it slow.
Now my usual ski holidays consist of some good mileage, check out the other ski areas on my ski pass and some good après ski. Being 21 its inevitable that there will be at least one night where we all have too much schnapps and beer. I can live without the lively après and the beginners nature of the resort, the thing that's making me apprehensive is the fact I will be out there for 6 months away from friends and family stuck in a quiet village with little to do, I would get my head stuck into work and just keep busy with that. However looking into the companies activities list for that resort, that seems rather limited as well.
Quiz night (always a good laugh), Paragliding (will be escorting guests to and from but not actually taking part myself), Candle light walk to a mountain hut and sleigh rides. So far that's all I can see the company has to offer. Also not everyone will purchase the Salzburg super ski pass so I doubt there will be any ski away days organized by reps. Now here I see the opportunity to try and create some new activities to keep guests entertained and bring in more revenue for the company but I don't know if this will be possible.
At the end of the day I don't wish to sound ungrateful or come across as being a problem employee before I even get out there but, I got offered the job around June/July time. I was one of the first groups of candidates, I requested a resort like Mayrhofen or Kitzbuhel. My reasons for this were because I had been to Mayrhofen and seen how diverse the range of clients were. I wanted to work in one of the bigger resorts so I got to work with anyone and everyone, from the more mature skier to beginners, families to groups of friends, young children to older children. It just seems like all of my request were ignored.
The question is do I stick it out and make the most of it, and prey my season ski pass is the Salzburg super ski pass so I can see more of the region on days off?
Or do I put my neck on the line and see if I can get relocated?
The third option may be to start the season and then see if I can relocate if I really cant stand it? However I'm not sure if this would even be possible.
Has anyone worked in Rauris for a season before?
If you've got this far many thanks for reading through my ramblings, I hope you can help a young snowhead out.
Many thanks
Regards Nathanael
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Nathan,
I've never worked in Rauris but have stayed there. You are right it is quiet however I'd give it a go. There are a few bars and something is usually going on. I also think if you stick it out by April it will feel like home and you won't want to leave. Always remember as well that once you're out there movement will happen locally ( eg reps leaving) and you'll be in a prime position!
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@njathind,
Stick it out after all you will be in a ski resort for the whole season !
If the pass is only local, no problem as a low intermediate skiing the same runs and getting used to them will allow you to work on your own skiing ability.
Stick it out work hard show them you are a great employee they really need to keep and hopefully next year you will get to go to a bigger resort and your skiing will have improved to a level that you really can make the most of a large ski area.
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A lot of seasonnaires end up preferring the smaller resort bubble, speak to anyone who has worked in a small like Sainte Foy for example, you get to know everyone so theres a really good community, plus smaller resorts often mean no rush for fresh tracks on a pow day.
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@njathind
My first season many moons ago was in Les Orres.
110km skiing, 1 English establishment and only 12 Brits in the whole resort other than our guests, Mainly school groups.
Still rates as probably the best season I have done. Great atmosphere in resort, a fantastic laugh with the other brits. Knew the resort inside out within a couple of weeks which was fantastic as you could always get the best lines over the visitors. The locals were great and really took to us and showed us so many spots for fresh snow days after it had fallen.
Was cheap on the pocket as wasn't too English.
Its what you make it. I had a great time and am still friends with the people I met then.
Go, Enjoy, Ski, Drink and have a laugh.
Tim
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Can you not just speak with the HR team and let them know that if there is anyone that is unhappy with their resort that you would be happy to look at a swap. I think if you approach it correctly then this is not unreasonable. At the end of the day, the HR/recruitment teams just need to get enough bodies into each resort and so to them it does not really matter who is where as long as they are covered. There may be someone who fancies a nice quite resort and is dreading the thought of being in Mayrhofen for a season! As above though, living in the mountains is awesome and so if Rauris is the worst case scenario, then you are still winning 
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@Timg60 If you think 110 KM is a small ski area then take a look at Rauris. There are 11 Pistes, 11 lifts, 7 of which are drag lifts and this gives access to a grand total of 25KM of piste. Give me Les Orres any day!!!
On a serious note though, if I were to write a tactfully worded email trying to change resort placements which do you think would be better. Email the relevant department immediately or wait till I am on the training course and speak to the relevant people face to face?
I'm sure working there will be bags of fun but all the excitement and anticipation that I've been feeling over the past month have completely disappeared, I've gone from spending 3/4 months of bouncing off the walls like a hyped up child at Christmas to almost dreading it now. I guess I put too much faith in the fact that I would be posted somewhere that fitted my description at interview. And to add insult to injury most of the people who I was interviewed with got the exact resort they wanted 
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@njathind, I'm not having a go but did you apply to the smaller UK chalet companies?
The ones that are based in the French Alps, it would probably have meant Chalet hosting work rather than Rep work but it would have got you a bigger ski area to explore!
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| RichardB wrote: |
@njathind, I'm not having a go but did you apply to the smaller UK chalet companies?
The ones that are based in the French Alps, it would probably have meant Chalet hosting work rather than Rep work but it would have got you a bigger ski area to explore! |
Nope, I did not. 2 Very good reasons, the first being I did not want to work as a Chalet host.
I did my research and spoke to people who are either reps or have worked as chalet hosts and my opinion of it was its not something I would like to do. My background is in sales and customer service, something a ski rep does day in day out. The idea was to combine my love of skiing with these skills to provide a top notch service to clients.
The second reason is I point blank refuse to work in France, to me a big part of being a ski rep is to show guests round the mountain on their first few days. In France you can not do anything of the sort.
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That's fair enough, I wasn't having a go, just wondering. I hope things get sorted out for you.
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| RichardB wrote: |
| That's fair enough, I wasn't having a go, just wondering. I hope things get sorted out for you. |
Don't worry, I figured that.
Hate how easy it is to misconstrue something written on the internet simply because you can read it in any tone you like.
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| njathind wrote: |
@njathind,
The second reason is I point blank refuse to work in France, to me a big part of being a ski rep is to show guests round the mountain on their first few days. In France you can not do anything of the sort. |
So you need to be in a resort that appeals to beginners. Because as you say yourself you are low intermediate you would not make a good first impression showing higher level skiers round the mountain when they are having to wait for you all the time.
25km is way more than 200m of a dry slope or fridge try working on one of those for 10 plus hrs a week and also skiing on them for 10-20 hours a week, week in week out for years. 25km is luxury.
For the fewer good skiers you will get there you will soon be able to give directions to the next lift and they can blast off and wait at the bottom for you and the others ( you may even come across as more caring staying with the lower level skiers rather than pushing the pace) .
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Given the number of applicants and the fact you already asked so they know that like everyone else you want somewhere big/cool, i'd live with it personally. The bigger resorts don't go to 1st year reps for a reason and it would come across presumptuous to me as the manager, its not like your preference is at all unusual.
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You know it makes sense.
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I have never worked for a tour rep, however have done my fair share of recruitment and so would assume that when running a campaign like this they are going to have a number of candidates that will drop out etc. I therefore don't see any problem in having a discussion with the hiring team, to make them aware that if a space comes up in one of your preferred resorts that you would be interested to swap.
I would maybe write them a note or give them a call to say thank you for sending through all of the information, all received and that you are looking forward to the start of the winter season and then drop in that you would still be interested in looking at your preferred resorts if a space was to become available. I can't see anyone getting the hump with that. if they do then you probably don't want to be working for them anyway.
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| a.j. wrote: |
| Given the number of applicants and the fact you already asked so they know that like everyone else you want somewhere big/cool, I'd live with it personally. The bigger resorts don't go to 1st year reps for a reason and it would come across presumptuous to me as the manager, its not like your preference is at all unusual. |
As I explained in my original post, I applied fairly early in the recruitment season and was offered a job months ahead of the winter season so I fail to see how numbers of applicants has anything to do with this situation? Granted its first come first serve however why would someone who was in the queue first get dumped to the back? 
I don't get how anyone at HR (who is responsible for the allocation of reps and not the resort managers) would see a politely worded email or conversation as brazen or arrogant? Bold maybe but certainly not presumptuous as you claim!
| googiew wrote: |
I have never worked for a tour rep, however have done my fair share of recruitment and so would assume that when running a campaign like this they are going to have a number of candidates that will drop out etc. I therefore don't see any problem in having a discussion with the hiring team, to make them aware that if a space comes up in one of your preferred resorts that you would be interested to swap.
I would maybe write them a note or give them a call to say thank you for sending through all of the information, all received and that you are looking forward to the start of the winter season and then drop in that you would still be interested in looking at your preferred resorts if a space was to become available. I can't see anyone getting the hump with that. if they do then you probably don't want to be working for them anyway. |
It's good to get sound advice from someone who has experience in recruitment, I have to email back confirming I have received the emails so I shall use that opportunity to request a transfer to a bigger resort if possible.
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@njathind, I'm sure you'll have a blast wherever you go. Rauris is I think the spot where the Forces telemark races are held- try giving that a go. Once you have nailed piste skiing- off piste and powder gives you limitless km, terrain and fun.
Two of the best areas I've ever skier are la Grave in France and Arcalis in Andorra. Ok la Grave doesn't really count as a normal area but Arcalis has a whole 30km of pistes but has fantastic access to bowls and a decent drop- apart from the pistes what is there in Rauris?
(I'm going to have a peek).
You're 21, no commitments, not a very good skier and are going skiing for 4 months! Lucky lucky Fitzwilliam.
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@njathind, it's not a case of 'first come first served'. Rather, it's a case of 'recruit required number of reps, then do a best match allocation'. You are quite young, it's your first season, you are only a low intermediate skier. That you applied early isn't really relevant to the company - they will put their more experienced staff where they think they are most needed.
If you go into it with the right attitude, you'll have a great season. Some of the smallest resorts have the best seasonnaire atmospheres (e.g. St Foy, already mentioned). If you do well, you might be considered for a mid-season transfer if a position comes up in one of your preferred resorts.
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Number of applicants = easy to replace is all I meant, presumpious as in presuming you are of more value to them than you are. Anyway do as you think best and good luck. Its not at all first come first served btw, its long standing employees , then those with a lot of experience, then friends of the influential
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| ed123 wrote: |
@njathind, I'm sure you'll have a blast wherever you go. Rauris is I think the spot where the Forces telemark races are held- try giving that a go. Once you have nailed piste skiing- off piste and powder gives you limitless km, terrain and fun.
Two of the best areas I've ever skier are la Grave in France and Arcalis in Andorra. Ok la Grave doesn't really count as a normal area but Arcalis has a whole 30km of pistes but has fantastic access to bowls and a decent drop- apart from the pistes what is there in Rauris?
(I'm going to have a peek).
You're 21, no commitments, not a very good skier and are going skiing for 4 months! Lucky lucky Fitzwilliam. |
As far as I can work out there's very little to do in Rauris, its a small village with a limited number pistes and a couple of bars with about 6 hotels. It is very, VERY SMALL. As I said above I think I may have come across as a lower ability skier than I actually am, I have been told I am a good skier. Controlled, fluid and good technique its just a case of moving on from the intermediate to the advanced stage.
Genuinely, my skill as a skier will mean that the 25km's of runs will soon get boring after a day or two. Think its going to wear very thin after 6 months
| Gämsbock wrote: |
@njathind, it's not a case of 'first come first served'. Rather, it's a case of 'recruit required number of reps, then do a best match allocation'. You are quite young, it's your first season, you are only a low intermediate skier. That you applied early isn't really relevant to the company - they will put their more experienced staff where they think they are most needed.
If you go into it with the right attitude, you'll have a great season. Some of the smallest resorts have the best seasonnaire atmospheres (e.g. St Foy, already mentioned). If you do well, you might be considered for a mid-season transfer if a position comes up in one of your preferred resorts. |
I fully understand the hierarchy, postings go to existing staff first and then newcomers will be allocated. I was recruited because of my skills in customer service and sales, the feedback I got from my interview pretty much made it sound like the sun shone from yonder. 
As I have already said the thing that rubs salt in the wound most is the fact that everyone from my interview got the resorts they wanted, and most of them have never skied in their life!!!
My main gripe is the fact that I have been place in a tiny resort with no scope to do anything!!! Little in the way of activities to host and no possibility of hosting ski away days! I have the experience, I have been told I have the experience, its the fact that my experience and reputation was gained in the UK and not on a mountain!
| a.j. wrote: |
| Number of applicants = easy to replace is all I meant, presumpious as in presuming you are of more value to them than you are. Anyway do as you think best and good luck. Its not at all first come first served btw, its long standing employees , then those with a lot of experience, then friends of the influential |
As said above I understand the hierarchy, postings go to existing staff first and then newcomers will be allocated. I have at no point presumed I am of more value than I actually am! I have simply explained that I am not entirely satisfied with my job posting on this forum and my desire to do something about it 
I am just seeking advice on what I should do, how is seeking advice making me sound like I think I'm more valuable than I am?
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I think all of the advice has the best of intentions. There is potential that if you approached this in the wrong way you could come across as being ungrateful etc.
You sound pretty well balanced though and so give it a try and see what they say. At the end of the day the truth is that HR don't care who goes where, just need the places filled. If you speak to them politely and a gap comes up then there may be chance to swap. If you don't ask you'll never know
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From a quick search
Although an unintimidating area for beginners, the 1250m vertical is big enough to keep more advanced skiers entertained and then there are long established off-piste touring routes that experts can be guided to and a 600m vertical black right above the village.
Once you learn to ski properly, you'll be fine
Jesting aside, really, you don't need a huge area for a season. I know it seems like that, but wherever you are you're going to end up skiing the same pistes again and again. Once you start to get to know an area really well, it become much more interesting - you can have all sorts of fun with little tree runs, jumps offthe side of the piste, 'secret' routes back into resort. Learning to ski off piste massively increases the skiable area of your domain.
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| googiew wrote: |
I think all of the advice has the best of intentions. There is potential that if you approached this in the wrong way you could come across as being ungrateful etc.
You sound pretty well balanced though and so give it a try and see what they say. At the end of the day the truth is that HR don't care who goes where, just need the places filled. If you speak to them politely and a gap comes up then there may be chance to swap. If you don't ask you'll never know |
I do fully appreciate all of the advice offered from fellow snow heads and its good to hear words of wisdom from people with a level head.
I've worked with people before who have gone all guns blazing to their manager when something doesn't suit and it just gets them no where.
I'm fully expecting to remain in Rauris and if that happens I will try and make the most out of the situation, I have just sent off some emails expressing my delight at working in Austria and for the company but tactfully highlighting the fact that as the company requests all employees to be fully flexible. If a vacancy came up in another resort in Austria that I be considered for it.
At the end of the day I cant be sent anywhere smaller, it looks like Rauris is the smallest resort in Austria the company has on its books
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| a.j. wrote: |
| it would come across presumptuous to me as the managerl. |
Not the asking advice here, the trying to email or call to change your destination. You asked whether requesting to transfer before even arriving would be taken well or badly, I think badly but you are welcome to ignore me
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Meh that should have a double quote in it - phone playing up.
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Lots of resorts near by. Are you planning on driving accross as you're days of could be spent exploring the other resorts.
I also think a lot of guests will enjoy the idea of trying other ski areas, you should have no problems getting people up for an explore of the nearby resorts.
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I think you have an offer of one of the roles you applied for but you don't like the post offered. You have three choices:
1. accept make the best of the deal and learn from it.
2. accept but point out that you had hoped for a bigger resort and would be happy to swop if anyone drops out or wants to be in a smaller place.
3. decline the offer because it's not what you thought you applied for.
Enjoy the season but if you decide on option 3 then feel free to pass on my details 
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@njathind,
You are making a big issue about there only being 25km but as others have pointed out there is so much more than the pisted runs.
Skiing the same runs day in day out is only boring if you let it become boring every run changes slightly every time and every day the changes can be subtle your challenge would be to find those subtle changes and exploit them. to learn all the intricacy's and master them which will expand your skiing knowledge and ability quicker than skiing a big resort because you will not learn the runs the same.
When you where at school you spent hours every week in the same playground, was that boring? or did you find games to play etc with your friends. You have been given the chance to have a whole side of a mountain as your new playground.
The issue re nightlife is a different issue but to be honest unless you have money or the bank of mum and dad at beck and call big resorts will cost more a lot more. Small resorts can give great nights in with friends which are much cheaper and will give better memories unless you are meaning you want big resort for big turnover of the opposite sex.
By all means phone and see if you can change but this is your first season why not do small this year and next year if you want to go big.
Lastly to show punters round a big resort you need to be a pretty good skier IMO a good advanced std at min the last thing you want is punters having to wait for you.
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If you are supposed to offer ski away days, then you'll get an area pass. From my experience, reps tended to get the area passes, chalet staff the local passes. As has already been said, there are busses and other forms of public transport/means of getting from resort to resort. I've know sole reps visiting reps in other resorts during the season for a night out/day skiing, and there are a number of resorts easily accessible to you. As for not getting. Mayrhofen or Kitz, not everybody gets their first choice, and they are popular resorts and so often go to returners, some of whom get disappointed because they didn't get it as theirs first choice. A season is what you make of it, go out there with an open mind and enjoy yourself. It doesn't matter which resort you are in, so long as you go with the right attitude, you'll have a great season.
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| yuppie wrote: |
Lots of resorts near by. Are you planning on driving accross as you're days of could be spent exploring the other resorts.
I also think a lot of guests will enjoy the idea of trying other ski areas, you should have no problems getting people up for an explore of the nearby resorts. |
I'll be traveling out with the company, the issue is that ski away days are not offered in resort officially. I'd be breaking my contract and so if I did do that I'd get the boot.
| tarrantd wrote: |
I think you have an offer of one of the roles you applied for but you don't like the post offered. You have three choices:
1. accept make the best of the deal and learn from it.
2. accept but point out that you had hoped for a bigger resort and would be happy to swop if anyone drops out or wants to be in a smaller place.
3. decline the offer because it's not what you thought you applied for.
Enjoy the season but if you decide on option 3 then feel free to pass on my details |
Option 1 = no
Option 2 = This is what I've gone fore
Option 3 = If I accepted this option I'd be severely out of pocket, I'd loose my deposit
| speed098 wrote: |
@njathind,
You are making a big issue about there only being 25km but as others have pointed out there is so much more than the pisted runs.
Skiing the same runs day in day out is only boring if you let it become boring every run changes slightly every time and every day the changes can be subtle your challenge would be to find those subtle changes and exploit them. to learn all the intricacy's and master them which will expand your skiing knowledge and ability quicker than skiing a big resort because you will not learn the runs the same.
When you where at school you spent hours every week in the same playground, was that boring? or did you find games to play etc with your friends. You have been given the chance to have a whole side of a mountain as your new playground.
The issue re nightlife is a different issue but to be honest unless you have money or the bank of mum and dad at beck and call big resorts will cost more a lot more. Small resorts can give great nights in with friends which are much cheaper and will give better memories unless you are meaning you want big resort for big turnover of the opposite sex.
By all means phone and see if you can change but this is your first season why not do small this year and next year if you want to go big.
Lastly to show punters round a big resort you need to be a pretty good skier IMO a good advanced std at min the last thing you want is punters having to wait for you. |
The thing is I have never skied anywhere with less than 100KM of runs, I wouldn't choose a microscopic resort as holiday destination and I really don't think I'd last a full 6 months working there. I'm not fussed about night life I just want some activities to host, at the moment there are 4 activities to host over a week. I have no doubt in my ability to show guests round a resort with 100-200 KM of runs, I've kept up with reps ski hosting before so I see no reason why I cant host them.
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| If you are supposed to offer ski away days, then you'll get an area pass. From my experience, reps tended to get the area passes, chalet staff the local passes. As has already been said, there are busses and other forms of public transport/means of getting from resort to resort. I've know sole reps visiting reps in other resorts during the season for a night out/day skiing, and there are a number of resorts easily accessible to you. As for not getting. Mayrhofen or Kitz, not everybody gets their first choice, and they are popular resorts and so often go to returners, some of whom get disappointed because they didn't get it as theirs first choice. A season is what you make of it, go out there with an open mind and enjoy yourself. It doesn't matter which resort you are in, so long as you go with the right attitude, you'll have a great season. |
As already explained in previous posts the company does not offer ski away days from this resort, the standard lift pass only covers Rauris and that's it. As far as I'm aware a standard lift pass is what staff are issued with so there is no scope to travel to other nearby resorts unless I pay out of my own pocket and go on my day off. However I get the feeling I'll be having my day off as some down time so wont want to be venturing afar.
As said in my interview I used Mayrhofen and Kitzbuhel as examples but I stressed I was open to suggestions of other resorts that were similar, I was not expecting to get my first choice but I at least thought I would have been listened to.
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@njathind, it's your first position with them, accept it, show them your abilities and earn the chance to move on to another resort. As your an unknown inexperienced new recruit you need to prove your worth to them, you seem to think it's the other way round. I assume you researched the company beforehand and knew which resorts they have?
One last thing, try and learn to accept other peoples opinion, it's usually offered to help, you seem to be getting the hump with many who have contributed
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Firstly if I were you I'd assume HR has seen the thread, or will find it in future.
From my reading the thread you may have fallen into the trap of interviewing well enough to be considered for the desirable, responsible job you and many people want (rep, ski host) but not having the experience to get it in a bigger resort: not fulfilling your requests isn't the same as not listening to them, ultimately they're the employer giving the jobs so maybe they don't feel the need to demonstrate exemplary active listening skills, or their policy may be not to provide feedback on requests as they patently can't satisfy them all and it just leads to acrimony.
In contrast the rest of your never-skied-before interview cohort who got in the big resorts they wanted presumably won't be hosting but will be there as part of bigger teams where they have a stronger support network in place (i.e. there's less damage they can do before someone notices....)
If it's a small family resort with just hotels then the number of guests could be very variable outside of school holidays, so I wouldn't worry too much about needing down time on your day off.
"War and Piste" may be well worth a read for (fictional) insights into the benefits of having a car in order to facilitate cross-resort staff cover...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@njathind, I think you'll be fine. It'll be way better than you think. Looks like there's loads of terrain once your skills are up to it.
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@njathind, it's your first position with them, accept it, show them your abilities and earn the chance to move on to another resort. As your an unknown inexperienced new recruit you need to prove your worth to them, you seem to think it's the other way round. I assume you researched the company beforehand and knew which resorts they have?
One last thing, try and learn to accept other peoples opinion, it's usually offered to help, you seem to be getting the hump with many who have contributed |
First off let me address your view that I have got
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I have got frustrated with simply being misunderstood over the internet, it is much easier to express emotions face to face or voice to voice.
If you have been reading my responses you will learn that I am currently accepting the resort I have been given yet I still seek to change it if it is mutually beneficial between myself and my employer, this is not getting the hump with yourself but simply making sure that you have read everything I have said and you are aware of the facts.
I have at no point implied that my employer needs to prove their worth to me, I have expressed my disappointment that the qualities I requested or view I expressed at interview seems not to have been acted upon.
Of course I researched all of the companies I've applied for and chose this one from the information I had gained at all of my interviews, I expressed my preferences and explained what I wanted to achieve from my period of employment. Building a simple picture of the sort of resort I felt I would suite and wanted to work in. I built a picture of a resort that had the possibility to provide alternative skiing areas to guests and share with them my knowledge of the area, to be able to interact with guests on many different levels through many different activities.
The resort I have been placed in has very limited scope to fulfil my ambitions and personal goals, hence why I am disappointed and seek to change it. As I have been saying I don't expect to be placed somewhere that's all singing and all dancing, its simply unrealistic. But I would have liked to be placed somewhere that is bigger than the village I have been placed in.
I don't see why I need to accept everyone's opinion, it may be offered with the best of intentions however I refuse to stand there and accept something that I believe to be an inaccurate portrayal of myself! I welcome constructive criticism but not derogatory comments, do you accept everyone's opinion?
What if a stranger to you expressed their opinion that they thought badly of you? Degraded yourself and your reputation simply by their opinion of you, are you telling me you would simply accept it believing that it was offered to help you?
I somehow doubt it, I feel that I am entitled to disagree with someone when I have valid reasons to.
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@njathind, how about asking the company to buy you the superpass, if they wont then pay the difference yourself. Ive not been to Rauris - but Im pretty sure what you are expecting is accurate.
The Gasteins are not far away - there must be a bus, and Zell is not far in the other direction - again there must be a bus. I think its worth getting the superpass just so you can get out on your days off.
And, there are loads of us around with season passes - we are always happy to meet up when available, so keep in touch and let us know how you get on. Ange
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"War and Piste" may be well worth a read for (fictional) insights into the benefits of having a car in order to facilitate cross-resort staff cover... |
Are you suggesting that the OP should get jiggy with his/her area manager in the hopes of facilitating a transfer?! 
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I think @mtsuit might have hit the nail on the head.
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In contrast the rest of your never-skied-before interview cohort who got in the big resorts they wanted presumably won't be hosting but will be there as part of bigger teams where they have a stronger support network in place (i.e. there's less damage they can do before someone notices....)
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Do you want to be a small cog in a big wheel, or a big cog in a small wheel? You've got a resort to yourself to do what you see fit.
I might be way off base since I don't know how the "repping" works. But judging from your distaste of the small piste of your destination resort, you clearly don't have enough experience to judge what's a good resort from the skiing point of view. So I wouldn't be too surprise you may also got the wrong idea of what your job will be like...
That said, I don't see any negative to let your employer know you wish to be place in a "bigger" resort.
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On the topic of entertainment, in my second season one of the mountain restaurants suggested we bring our clients up on chalet girls night off for a fondue/ pierrade/ whatever.
The company owners (it was a small company) were in agreement, the staff marketed it and we split the proceeds (and they were quite lucrative) to everyones satisfaction, not least the guests who had a very splendid evening at not abgreat cost.
Opportunity abounds, seize it.
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