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Newbie flex question

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,

First time posting here and looking of course for some advice. I'm a fairly beginner skier mainly green paths from time to time a little bit of blue but not to much as it often ends... well... you know how Confused I've been skiing as a child and than had over 20 years break. Since two years I'm slowly coming back to it (like... 6 days a year ...) and have been renting boots from the station sport shop. Those boots are often in poor condition and sometimes hurt my ankle (after an hour or two of skiing). I thought that maybe buying some entry level boots would be better. I've been looking around since few days and I saw some bargains like

SALOMON QUEST ACCESS 770
ROSSIGNOL ALIAS SENSOR 70
HEAD NEXT EDGE 70

all flex 70-80, all around around 110 £

I'm slightly over 6 feet tall and weight around 220 pounds. Do you think I should be getting some of those or I should stick with hired once? The thing is I don't have any idea what kind of boots I had from the rental shop so I'm quite lost.


thx for your help
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spitfire303, welcome to the madhouse (sorry Snowheads snowHead )

being honest you are a big guy, all of those boots whilst they may feel better than the rental boot in comfort will be far too soft for you, even as a skier with limited experience you should be looking at a stiffer boot (minimum of 100 i would say maybe even more depending on your leg length and your power)

boots this soft will simply be crushed as you flex forward, this in itself can cause pain as the boot is giving inadequate support for your body weight and level length

if budget is very tight keep renting
if you can spend a little more look higher up the ranges
if you want to do it right, go to a good shop/boot fitter and work with them
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spitfire303, another welcome to Snowheads. snowHead Lot of rental shops have good, pretty new, boots and a decent range. Maybe ask here before you go for a recommendation to a good hire shop. You can swap boots if they are wrong for you.

Properly fitted boots are the absolute ideal, obviously, and boot fitters don't come better than CEM.

However, given what you say in your post, spending money on some good ski lessons might be a better investment. And work on your ankle flex and fitness.
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thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate your feedback. I have found ROSSIGNOL ALIAS SENSOR 100 for around around 100£. I'll keep looking. What I'm thinking is I really don't remember which boots I got from the rental shop, I mean I don't know what was it in terms of flex... pitty.

BTW I had and will have some ski lessons but it's totally different budget... I think the main problem is (was) the 20 years break and only 6 days of skiing per year...

thx
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Whereabouts are you? Some of the shops round here (in Scotland) have good deals on last season's boots but I suspect new stock will be coming in very soon so the old stuff might dissappear. You really need to try going into a shop and getting a few boots to try on. The boot fitter will recommend ones that should suit your feet and size/skiing level.

The rental boots you had were probably too big and too soft. Having your own boots with a reasonable amount of stiffness (100 - 110) will really improve your skiing and how much you enjoy your skiing. So go for it!
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Well... frankly speaking I live in France. Believe or not I haven't found such an active forum there and I like... English (not a real French I am Smile ) . So if you don't mind I'll stick here Smile

I have been to one shop and the girl in there advised flex 80 Salomon quests (ok it was a Decathlon and she was young LOL). I just have an Intersport around but they don't have the ski stuff yet. I may give a try to the ROSSIGNOL ALIAS SENSOR 100 as they're quite cheap and I can always return them to the seller.
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spitfire303, While Decathlon/Quechua may be great if you've already identified what you want, they are less likely to know what you need. Do you have a Vieux Campeur nearby? What skiing are you near?
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I don't have the chance to be nearby a vieux camper I live in western France near the coast and we almost never see snow here... and with 5mm during a day it's panic on the roads LOL.
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Remember, you can make a tight boot looser and take out pressure points... but it doesn't work the other way round. I'd say take any Snow and Rock recommended fitting and then go down a shell size, liners do pack out after a few weeks.
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Flex ratings also vary from manufacturer to manufacturer (unless this has now been standardised?? CEM??)

I had a pair of Atomic Hawk 80's for 150 days worth of skiing and they were fab! I got better than the boot over time and due to this realised when it was time to change.
I'm 5'10" and average at about 100 kilos and they were perfect.
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Thank you all.

An additional question. Dalbello.. it's a respectable brand? I've never heard of them. I've seen a pair of Dalbello Viper 100 boots not very expensive.
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Ok so I sent back first three pairs of boots. Two were not comfortable and one was too soft (all 29.5). Now I got Lange boots size 30.5 no 30 on stock. They're very comfortable but... is it bad if I can move just a bit the heel? I mean, It doesn't move right left but I can lift it a little bit (really little). I don't know if I should be or not to do it. Not much and the front of the leg seems to be tight and well.
thx for any help
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Bad question Puzzled Any one can give me an advice?

thanks guys
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if budget is very tight keep renting
if you can spend a little more look higher up the ranges
if you want to do it right, go to a good shop/boot fitter and work with them

spitfire303, that's the best advice, from an expert. If you are determined to buy, why not wait till you are in a ski resort and can go to a shop with a specialist fitter?
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If you can feel a little heel movement now, wait until 2 weeks in when your liners start packing down. New boots should almost feel too tight for the first few days... not painful, just snug.
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Thx for the hint. I'll send them back. This year I will rent boots once more.
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New boots are lovely, but I have learnt over the years to save up and go to a personally recommended boot fitter and let them make the decisions. The first time I did this my very soft and problematic beginner boots which were frankly holding me back were replaced by a nice pair of 130 flex Nordica Superchargers, they revolutionised my skiing overnight and gave me 6 years of heavy service.
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