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Hi everyone,
i am new on here (but my dad is not and he said do it yourself you're a grown up now  ) and i am looking to draw on the huge combined knowledge of the Snowhead's masses.
My elder sister has worked a couple of seasons the first as a host and the second doing bar work. Clearly bar work was more fun, better paid and more mountain time.
I am hoping to work a season in a bar in the Alps this winter and i am trying to accumulate a list of all the British run bars in European resorts. I would really appreciate it if you could help me out by posting the names and resorts of any British bars that you know.
I know it is highly unlikely but if this works out and i get a job, I like to think that i will end up posting in the mates rates thread.
Thanks in advance,
hopefully see some of you next winter.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 20-05-14 0:31; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Frog and RoastBeef , Val Thorens
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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bamberski, why limit yourself to a Brit run vomitorium?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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if this works out and i get a job, I like to think that i will end up posting in the mates rates thread.
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maybe don't mention that at the job interview? 
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Hi Mr Masque,
I thought that I'd try for Brit run establishments as i'd be more likely to get a job in one rather than French run ones. (Or Swiss or Austrian etc) I've heard that to work in locally run bars one has to have a good grasp of the local language. Sadly, although I have a GCSE in French, my language skills aren't of the level required.
Surely every Brit run bar isn't a vom fest?
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Companies House might be your first port of call.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Arctic Roll, Thank you.
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sequoiaboard, Cheers.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I've heard that to work in locally run bars one has to have a good grasp of the local language. Sadly, although I have a GCSE in French, my language skills aren't of the level required.
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But the odd local might wander into the bar and expect to be able to order a drink in the language of the country? You have plenty of time to improve your French (that might be the best bet - judging from other posts I've seen on snowheads bar jobs in Austria are often filled by hard working young East Europeans who speak fluent German and don't expect to go skiing all the time ).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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bamberski, don't limit yourself, whatever the nationality of the owner the clientèle are always mixed . . . and listen to pam w, Life should be a challenge
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I agree with all of the above-don't limit yourself! It doesn't take too much to brush up on your restaurant French. Ultimately you will have to take orders in French from the locals....
However-you might want to look at Pub Le Ski Lodge in La Tania and the Lodge du Village (in Meribel Village) and La Taiga restaurant in La Tania-all owned by Tim Wall. He and others run the latania.co.uk website which has links to other bars etc which you might find helpful-look here http://www.latania.co.uk/resort/workersguide.htm
From my recent experience you might also want to look at Le Dahlia Bar in St Martin de Belleville-I think the owners are dutch and certainly a number of bar staff were native english speakers when I was there this season.
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You know it makes sense.
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Several in Les Deux Alpes, may not all be English owned but clientele and some/all of bar staff are. Smokey Joe's, Smithy's, Polar Bear, Secret Bar, Red Frog, Windsor.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Moncrons bar in Sauze d'Oulx run by an Englishman, pity he's an Evertonian though 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Ultimately any Bar in Austria,France,etc is run by the Mayor of the local town
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Paddy's in Sauze d'Oulx, was English speaking, Irish owned/run. But it's been some time since we've been. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You would probably need the local language anyway. The owner of the frog and roast beef, does building work in the summer and did much of the renovations on my apartment, speaks pretty good French himself. Whilst most of their custom is english speaking, given the choice I imagine they would go for people who can speak languages.
I do find it pretty shocking how poor Brits are for second languages, even out of relatively decent schools.
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Scottys bar in LA Plagne is staffed with mainly UK seasonaires, possibly because the Scottys chain is part of the Mark Warner empire!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Loop & Marmot Arms in Tignes.
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I've heard that to work in locally run bars one has to have a good grasp of the local language. Sadly, although I have a GCSE in French, my language skills aren't of the level required.
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But the odd local might wander into the bar and expect to be able to order a drink in the language of the country? You have plenty of time to improve your French (that might be the best bet - judging from other posts I've seen on snowheads bar jobs in Austria are often filled by hard working young East Europeans who speak fluent German and don't expect to go skiing all the time ). |
+1 - working a bit on your French over the summer would be a massive help, even if you work in an English bar. Helpful to serve the odd French customer, and also for your own season drinking in other bars around the place.
I did a couple of shifts as emergency cover in an Irish and a French bar in Cham last winter, and even in the Irish bar speaking French with the odd customer was very useful, which most of the staff couldn't do.
You don't need anything really advanced, just basic conversational stuff, and know how to take an order and say different drink types. If you've got GCSE French you'll learn most of what you need pretty easily, don't stress about it.
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I do find it pretty shocking how poor Brits are for second languages, even out of relatively decent schools.
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I agree, in some resorts it doesn't matter, but you get so much more when you at least try and make an effort to speak the language.
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you get so much more when you at least try and make an effort to speak the language.
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and if I were interviewing people for jobs I'd take a dim view of somebody who wasn't thinking about preparing themselves - and showing a bit of interest in their destination.
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Anyone who has set foot in the Brit bars of Meribel, Val d'Isere or even down in Alpe d'Huez can attest that local language skills are not in evidence, and of course the vast majority of staff in those places will have been to the most expensive schools available. Worst I ever saw was in Saloon of Val d'Isere when the barmaid had to use her fingers to show how much a French client needed to pay, and she did it while looking very angry that he hadn't understood her English demands the first three times. As much as it's offensive, it's just normal. I tend to socialise with French people more than Brits and them being obliged to switch to English to order and pay when we go out doesn't surprise anyone.
Anyone who has been through the TO recruitment circus will also know why this is the case, the 'language test' is normally a two line role-play of 1st year high school level, administered and rated by people in London offices who can't even speak the language themselves.
I would hope that the independent bars are a bit fussier in their hiring, but Saloon (VDI) and Baromoter (Meribel) seem to prove that they aren't... Anyway, if you don't speak any languages well just stick your GCSEs down on the form and apply for a job with one of the TOs because many own large bars in the biggest and most British resorts, and in the worst case they'll stick you in a semi-private hotel bar.
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There are a number of English run bars in Courchevel 1650 - Funky Fox, The Bubble Bar, Rocky's Bar, La Boulotte. But as other people have mentioned you would be expected to take orders in French as well it may be frequented by Brits but it is still a French resort! It is probably to your benefit to brush up on your basic French if you are heading to the French Alps.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Scottys bar in LA Plagne is staffed with mainly UK seasonaires, possibly because the Scottys chain is part of the Mark Warner empire! |
Ditto Scotty's in St Anton and Bar Cuba.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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ern der twa cat sank
easy.
all the best bars are the ones with non-brit staff.
was funny on one bash (tignes one), with us, the clients, going behind the bar to show kids who aren't even legally old enough to drink the proper way to pour a beer.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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genepi, been 6 years . . . it has to have improved . . . please. However you have to realise that the 'gnarly dudes' in question were just seasonaires wobbling around the resort on skis fatter than their egos
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Masque, You should go again - probably not changed that much in fact, but I'm quite fond of it. Fantastic place to watch England/France rugby matches
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Bars that I know of that would love to have you...
The Full English in St Anton
The Lion and Unicorn in Zermatt
Paddy's in Everywhere
King George in Kitzbuhel
The Victoria in Verbier
The Piste n Firkin in Klosters
Just mention my name (Bertie Bassett) and you're sorted 
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I think the manager of the Yeti in Villeneuve is British. Smithy's in Alpe d'Huez (same owners as the one in LDA as suggested by Claude).
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bamberski, Perdrix Noir in Flaine (Foret) but as I wouldn't go there for a glass of water, I can't say I'd want to work there
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Has TC's in Tignes closed down then?
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FAQ
My user name here is nothing like my real one so hopefully I won't be rumbled!
the resort is lovely but the the bar's a craphole full of 'serious gnarly dudes' 
