clarky999, the problem with 4FRNTs is that almost all of their current models lack in effective edge department, which for me disqualifies them for groomer use. The only exception is Cody (btw discontinued as of 2014/15), but there are better ~100mm AM skis out there IMO.
Kenny, in my books 8/10 is strong intermediate/early advanced. Maybe I should start using the Sh skill rating system (if there is one).
Ov8chkin, That's true of their newer skis, but not so much the old ones like the CRJ. For instance the EHP has the tiniest bit of tip and tail rocker, the rest is flat. Long low rocker is the future though, like the Renegade and Hoji.
The CRJ has a reasonably long cambered section underfoot, similar to the Bibby which carves well as long as it's not bullet proof. http://4frnt.com/products/crj For €400 definitely worth thinking about IMO.
Effective edge isn't always what it seems though, as soon as the ski is on edge and bent it increases dramatically even on full rocker skis. See waynos's comments on the Gotama, which I believe is a full rocker ski. It's also how you make a charging ski (more) playful and manageable in tight places. You rarely hear negatives about the Cochise or Katanas edge grip, yet both are also full length (if subtle) rocker...
A little November footage from my mate featuring the CRJ:
Hmmm...page two and no mention of Kastle BMX 108. Certainly a charger, great in powder, excellent in variable snow and awesome edge grip. No real rocker but an early rise tip just good enough for the tree runs. Depending in how hard you want to charge you have a choice of 188 or 195. They are my first forrey from dynastar in the last ten years and I can't see myself going back. Love them.
Hmmm...page two and no mention of Kastle BMX 108. Certainly a charger, great in powder, excellent in variable snow and awesome edge grip. No real rocker but an early rise tip just good enough for the tree runs. Depending in how hard you want to charge you have a choice of 188 or 195. They are my first forrey from dynastar in the last ten years and I can't see myself going back. Love them.
PP, thanks. I think that with Kastles, you either love 'em or you don't. I had BMX 98s for first half of 13-14 season and just could not get used to them - too stiff and unresponsive + tip dive in 30 cms of snow.
I imagine that the 108 is close to being a classic charger like Katana or one of the Nordicas. Will definitely consider ownership of such ski as I progress off-piste.
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Well, thank you everyone. Leaning towards Scott Punisher in 189, will follow on with some impressions as soon as I get to ski these boards.
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the_doc, thanks. Preacher scares me off because of its 155 mm shovel, but I will take a second look at the Ranger.
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The Preacher carves very well on piste, in addition to its other attributes. I've never found the big shovels a problem - but they seem to surf over breakable crust ok
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It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but the Director Carbonlites (191) are outstanding IMV. Immense fun and serious when you need them to be. On my shopping list without doubt for 2014/15, having tested them recently.
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I would reccomend the Ranger pro carbonlites (191) tested them on the EoSB when conditions were very far from optimal and they still felt great. Only 95 underfoot but I think that makes them a better all rounder
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I would reccomend the Ranger pro carbonlites (191) tested them on the EoSB when conditions were very far from optimal and they still felt great. Only 95 underfoot but I think that makes them a better all rounder
The Ranger Pro model (in either a traditional construction or CarbonLite) is actually 195cm & is 110mm underfoot whereas the other Ranger lengths (186, 177 or 168cm) are 108mm underfoot.
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spyderjon, shows you what I know, thanks for that I of course defer to your vastly superior knowledge Thanks for sorting out my bindings on the bash it was very much appreceited. It actually didn't feel that wide and felt great on piste if you gave it some speed and worked them hard.
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Thanks for sorting out my bindings on the bash it was very much appreceited. It actually didn't feel that wide and felt great on piste if you gave it some speed and worked them hard.