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High Altitude Resorts with Tree-lined Runs

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Ay up Snowheads!

Can anyone recommend a ski resort in the Alps that has a good proportion of tree-lined pistes, whilst being at a reasonably high altitude? Planning a trip for late season and love some off-piste action between the trees Razz.

Cheers.
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Les Arcs has some lovely tree lined runs down to Peisey and Vallandry and some high altitude terrain as well.
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serre chevalier has lots of tree and monetier goes up to 2800 metres.
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skidm, welcome to snowHeads. dan100, +1 . Serre Chevalier is in the largest larch forest in Europe and there are loads of trees.
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skidm, by late season, how late do you mean? Late April you are going to struggle to find a resort that has both snow and trees, because to get reliable snow cover at that point you need to be higher than the tree line will be. Or you might find resorts with both but the tree lined bit may well not be open.
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Explain this like I'm five please.

Why is the tree line so much higher in America? Resorts like Breckenridge are stupid high altitude and seem to be gladed all the way to the top.
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Mr Pieholeo,

Non 5 year old explanation - I imagine altitude is not the issue and more the environment. You can get warm and moist mountains and cold and dry mountains of the same height it just depends where they are.
5 year old explanation - Cos it is.
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is it to do with longitude?
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Mr Pieholeo, you don't have to go to Breckenridge to see the difference. Ben Nevis is considerably lower altitude than many of the tree-lined runs in the Alps. No trees - too cold.
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is it to do with longitude?

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The "trees" in Aspen are at 11,000 ft. But the trees share a root system and are therefore not technically trees but weeds. Puzzled


(Skiing whilst high in/on Aspen weed is legal now)
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Mistress Panda, I'm thinking last week in March or 1st week in April.

Anyone been to Solden? I've heard it's pretty snow sure and at a decent altitude. But what about the trees?
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skidm, so not that late season then. Serre Chevalier has snow to the village then.
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http://northernwoodlands.org/articles/article/why_is_the_treeline_at_a_higher_elevation_in_the_tetons_than_in_the_white_m

or if you are feeling brave.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-43226.html
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Montgenevre
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horizon wrote:
Montgenevre


Had two days amazing tree skiing in Montgenevre. Would recommend.
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La Plagne and Les Arcs
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Mr Pieholeo, you don't have to go to Breckenridge to see the difference. Ben Nevis is considerably lower altitude than many of the tree-lined runs in the Alps. No trees - too cold.




cold isn't the issue it's the wind and general harsh enviroment
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From the Northern Woodlands article lnked above:

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Because the elevational treeline is so closely tied to temperature, many suggest that it could be a particularly sensitive indicator of global climate change. Presumably, rising temperatures would increase the elevation of treeline in any locale, altering forest distribution and potentially ousting rare plant communities – and their inhabitants – that now exist above treeline. Although the specific physiological mechanism of treeline formation is not fully understood, there is growing photographic and other evidence of upward shifts in treelines worldwide.

So that means much more tree skiing in the future Cool Laughing
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Agree with Snow and Sunshine:
La Plagne has loadsa trees down to Montalbert, Montchavin and Les Coches, Les Bauches, Champagny.
Les Arcs I know less well, but as rob@rar mentioned: the runs down to Peisey and Vallandry are full of trees.
Of course, whether any of these runs are skiable depends on the snow.
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If you remove the pistes requirement La Grave goes up high and has some decent tree skiing.
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cold isn't the issue

it is a key issue, and is why trees grow to a higher altitude in the Alps on south facing slopes than on north facing slopes
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it's more key in the summer as we don't get the same warm weather as the alps and the trees don't bulk up, and the wind in the alps is not as bad as here.
If cold was the problem Scotland would have loads of trees compared to the alps, our treeline is about 500m, exposure is the issue and it's pretty well documented.
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Mr Pieholeo asks an interesting question.
And, as is often the case, the answer is more complicated than to propose one single factor.
Wikipedia has some in interesting data: there is clearly a rough trend (with some aberations) of increasing treeline height as you move south.
And this article has some fascinating discussion on the many various factors involved.

If you're really interested, here is a whole book on the subject.

But in answer to Mr Pieholeof's question: it appears actually no one knows Puzzled


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If cold was the problem Scotland would have loads of trees

Scotland used to have loads of trees, I understand. And still does have quite a lot, but not on the top of Ben Nevis.
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Jonpim, that nature article is pretty in depth isn't it. Cheers.
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pam w, Scotland did indeed once have loads of trees.
They were cut down to provide fuel.
And then, just like with North Sea Oil, the fuel ran out.
Scotland (and the rest of UK) was saved by coal.
Especially Sir George Bruce of Carnock
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Is the answer..... Pay a bit more for your travel costs and save a fortune on your beer and food costs, (maybe pre order your lift passes late summer and save huge amount next time) and just go to the US of A and enjoy powder skiing in the trees at breathtaking altitude..
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limegreen1, No.
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Mr Pieholeo wrote:
Explain this like I'm five please.

Why is the tree line so much higher in America? Resorts like Breckenridge are stupid high altitude and seem to be gladed all the way to the top.


prevailing weather systems and that green stuff you get to keep the cold wind off your new trees. The west side of the Rockies is the same as the green stuff
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limegreen1, wink
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