 Poster: A snowHead
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My daughter has just told me about a friends parents in Val D'Isere.
The mother was crashed into at some speed (which very sadly resulted in a broken collar bone). A friend of the guilty party then appeared on the scene claiming to be medically trained. While her husband was gathering her equipment and making a warning cross with her skis the duo who were supposedly making her comfortable were also helping themselves to her purse, creditcards and cash before skiing off.
It just goes to show what some lowlife will do.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Good grief. Is this reported anywhere else? Were they caught?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Any idea of their nationality?
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I know the relevant authorities were informed.
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Sounds like a poor plan to me. Sooner or latter they're going to be the ones hurt in the "accident".
I'll give it 24hrs before there's dozens of reports flying around the internet though.
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Sounds like a Snopes job
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It beggers belief doesn't it
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| fatbob wrote: |
| Sounds like a Snopes job |
I agree, definitely the making of an urban myth.
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Is it really bad that as soon as I saw the title I thought "France"?? 
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Was the mother knocked unconscious that:
a) she wasn't aware they were rifling through her pockets/pack?
b) couldn't stop them from rifling through her pockets/pack?
c) couldn't alert her husband to the fact that she was being robbed?
Or, perhaps, she was skiing with a handbag slung over her shoulder?
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Was the mother knocked unconscious that:
a) she wasn't aware they were rifling through her pockets/pack?
b) couldn't stop them from rifling through her pockets/pack?
c) couldn't alert her husband to the fact that she was being robbed?
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With a broken clavicle I would have thought that any half decent pickpocket who someone thought was a doctor could distract someone enough to relieve them of their wallet. Must say it sounds a very high risk low probablilty outcome of a worthwhile return for the perpetrators if true. I'd have thought empty chalets a much easier target.
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Zero_G, oh come on. Plenty of opportunity for a skilled pick-pocket to pull out a wallet under cover of helping. People don't notice when it happens on the street without their being knocked over. I know when I broke my leg I was in enough pain I wouldn't have noticed something quite blatant.
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But ski jackets have zipped and/or velcroed pockets (at least the ones you would, rationally, put your valuables in), so that makes them far more difficult to to get into without being heard or seen.
I'm not questioning the veracity of the story itself, I'm trying to understand how they got away with it.
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You know it makes sense.
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I've had my pockets lifted at Gare du Nord. They got my passport and wallet from an inside, velcro'd pocket. No violence whatsoever at all. Only realised a minute or so later when pulling out on a RER. Distract and dip. The "good" ones are bl00dy brilliant at it. Sounds as if they overdid the distraction bit and badly hurt the victim. It could be an urban myth, however the OP reporting the victim as being the daughter's friend's parents, an actual link to a identified person, it sounds very plausible. IMHO absolutely 100% possible.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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But ski jackets have zipped and/or velcroed pockets (at least the ones you would, rationally, put your valuables in), so that makes them far more difficult to to get into without being heard or seen.
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Distraction works much better than most people realise otherwise most stage magicians would be without a job. If someone is pushing you saying does this hurt and someone else is making a noise you really will not notice the extra dive into a pocket.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Anyone in Val heard about this?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Also, as I understand it, a decent pick-pocket will have watched the target already - I'm guessing in this case at a restaurant / chocky stop - and know which pocket the wallet etc went into.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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snopes
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Horrible if this is true, wouldn't it be easier to pickpocket jackets on the back of chairs in restaurants though. Jackets have so many pockets now, god know how they found things, I can't manage to find anything in my jacket.
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| Swissie wrote: |
| Horrible if this is true, wouldn't it be easier to pickpocket jackets on the back of chairs in restaurants though. Jackets have so many pockets now, god know how they found things, I can't manage to find anything in my jacket. |
+1000
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^ Or just lift £1000s of ski gear from outside Folle Douce?
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wouldn't it be easier to pickpocket jackets on the back of chairs in restaurants
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Or just lift £1000s of ski gear from outside Folle Douce
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Much easier than crashing into someone to nick potentially only a few tens of euros.
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Perhaps the thief saw how much was in the purse at the restaurant and decided to pursue the victim.
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T Bar, interesting vid.
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Zero_G,
Whilst I agree it does seem a bit of a hit and miss tactic, no pun intended, skilled thieves are certainly capable of doing it.
At a company sales conference in Montreux many moons ago we had a 'retired' thief (who was part of a group of magicians) as entertainment one night. As well as card tricks this guy also did his pick-pocketing routine. I had an envelope in my inside jacket pocket (in a dinner suit, and I'd put it there so I was sure) and not only did I not feel him lift it, I didn't even bl@@dy see him, and he was standing directly in front of me.
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We had this chap http://firebirdevents.co.uk/services/cabaret/keith-the-thief-charnley.php at a few client events, quite extraordinary. Even after I'd seen him a few times he could still tell you he was going to steal the tie from around your neck, do it, you wouldn't notice, and then he'd hand you back your wallet, wristwatch and house keys 10 minutes later.
He trains the Met on what to look for...
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I saw the gorilla, as such i am un-muggable 
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You know it makes sense.
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| dulcamara wrote: |
| I saw the gorilla, as such i am un-muggable |
Me too, I lost count of the passes when he walked in.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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No Bro, passes check, Gorilla check...... UNMUGGABLE! may even start skiing in France to prove it!
EDIT: ok that's a bit far sorry, Im not really gonna ski in France
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Poster: A snowHead
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I was going to suggest not to try france to prove anything. I find the tale a tad fishy too. I know that it has to be easier to pickpocket in the resturaunts when your dealing with finding seats, trays, clonking about in boots and trying to find something to eat, or sitting in the sun waiting for your beer, the relaxation after a fast run is so total you could steal my boots.
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