 Poster: A snowHead
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Plus 2 for the F10's. Have had them for 3 years as has my wife. They are a little more fickle but better for short/occasional tours than fritschis (which I had before). Your weight is the biggest issue. if you are heavy you could break them. if not (<80 kg) then they are fantastic to ski. Mine have been everywhere - all over Europe, Japan, Canada, off to Alaska this year and no doubts whatsoever.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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DB, The main reason I went for the Guardian / Tracker is that I got a new pair half price. It meant that I didn't need to spend much, just the bindings and skins. They are very strong, and for heavier and aggressive skiers the DIN runs to 16. The boot sole issue is a pain, they are designed to be used with Alpine soles or the latest hybrid boots. With a full rockered sole you need to belt grind some rubber off or do what I did and glue a flat sole plate where the friction plate on the binding meets. I'd say that if you were doing multiday tours then they are too heavy, but for a binding you can use on piste all season and tour when you want they tick the box. Once I can afford it I will also get a pin binding set up on a lighter ski, but by then I should have thighs of steel lol. Total weight is 5.5kg for 98mm ski, binding and boot. Mohair mix skins save a little weight too over some I have seen. One advantage is that you can lock the bindings down without taking them off, can come in handy for terrain interuptions such as side stepping up stream banks.
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DB, Yes, I can't see it being a real selling point  But I toured a half day on them last weekend with no probs or lagging behind. Still, they are used 90% as normal bindings, and doing small jumps and half pipe playing so suit my circumstances.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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hmm. mixed views on this thread as I have F10s on K2 Hardsides and am absolutely fine with them for most offpiste skiing including skinning, say, 2 x 1.5 hours per day. Weight is no issue for me on any of those ascents. This is the real issue isnt it: ''touring'' has so many variables in terms of length of vertical ascent required per day, fitness of skier, skiing standard (ie how tired are they from the down) that the bindings (and skis) required by an individual skier vary so much that it is difficult to specify. Who knows what the OP may need or want in terms of weight without knowing how much he likes to ascend etc etc?
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| Avalanche Poodle wrote: |
| DB, The main reason I went for the Guardian / Tracker is that I got a new pair half price (snip) The boot sole issue is a pain, they are designed to be used with Alpine soles or the latest hybrid boots. With a full rockered sole you need to belt grind some rubber off or do what I did and glue a flat sole plate where the friction plate on the binding meets. |
Next season's Guardians will be ISO Touring sole certified, not just WTR. They'll have a proper sliding AFD, etc.
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chrisJersey, even if you're not having a problem with the weight you might find you can go faster with a lighter setup and get in 3 x 1 hour rather than 2 x 1.5. 
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chrisJersey, Yup, and threads such as this one are pretty good at letting the OP see all the various solutions and compromises arrived at by people with differting requirements.
As an aside, the people I have the opportunity to tour with tend to either be extremely fit local athletic types who race each other on ultra light equipment and train constantly, or groups of lovely ladies who like more relaxed days with drink stops. I know which group I prefer to be a member of
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Tue 11-02-14 14:27; edited 1 time in total
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Serriadh, I wish they had put a sliding AFD on to start with, it would have made my Frankenboot unnecessary hehehe. There was some discussion on TGR of how easy it would be to retrofit one from another binding.
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