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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just saw that this morning. Excellent news! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm pleased for her, I hope she makes it through safely.
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Great news for Chemmy and good luck to her.
Sad news for Alpine overall with only Chemmy and Dave selected, no TJ and no Dougie  only two alpine skiers selected so let's hope the seven snowboarders pull their medal weight then.
The table on funding in that article is also sad reading.
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Yes, the funding situation sucks - but if Chem and Dave were the only people to make the grade (2 x 32nd placings in the qualifying period) why bring also-rans? If they want to represent their country, be better. The freestylers and boarder cross riders all earned their places under similar requirements for their disciplines - We've nobody at all in Luge or Skier Cross.
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Richard_Sideways, isn't Emily Sarsfield competing in the Ski Cross?
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Hells Bells, no.
Richard_Sideways, thanks for explaining. I didn't know how the selection was done. I thought it would have been something like 4 best in this discipline, 4 best in that, 4 best in another and so on or similar. That's why I thought it seemed unfair.
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| ......isn't Emily Sarsfield competing in the Ski Cross?..... |
But didn't I see a big piece with Emily on Ski Sunday a couple of weeks ago ? ( unsure of timing as I watch most of my TV on catch up )
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Oh, and great news for Chemmy [goes weak at the knees]. Incredible drive and determination, and no shortage of skill. I still think she could have dominated women's skiing had she had the backing/resources available to the traditional Alpine nations
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I was surprised myself, but BBC say we don't have anyone representing in Skier-cross, and she's not listed on TeamGB
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Emily should and deserves to be there. 32nd place in last race (same as Chemmy and Dave) and last race cancelled. She has worked so hard and is such a dedicated sports person. I am so disappointed for her 
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Mouth, very disappointing.
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You know it makes sense.
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I don't think Chemmy should be there, injured at the end of her career, with very little chance of any success, taking a place from younger athletes with the need for experience and in the case of Emily a chance of coming away with something.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I can't see Zoe Gillings listed either, and she's ranked 10th in the world at the moment...
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Poster: A snowHead
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Richard_Sideways, Zoe's there.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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TeamGB website is AWFUL - a cacophony of style over substance. Stop funding Shoreditch mediatwunt design-gasms and put the cash into snowsport!
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cant believe the amount of cash spent on bobsled and skelton compared to skiing/boarding
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This from the 8th of Jan, Sarsfield talks to Norther Echo
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“It's been frustrating because I started the season in North America fairly well, but in the last few weeks I've slipped from the safe zone in terms of qualifying into the unsafe zone.
“The weather hasn't been on my side, but there's been a bit of fresh snow recently and that's good. I haven't done a lot wrong, but I had a couple of races that didn't quite go right for me and then I had a crash when we were racing near where I live in Meribel.
“It was nothing serious – one of the jumps was about 40m in height, and as soon as I came off it, I knew I wasn't going to be able to land it so I took evasive action – but it was enough to knock me down the rankings a place or two. That's what's causing the problems.”
There is another element to Sarsfield's story as even if she finishes outside the top 32 by this month's cut-off point, she will almost certainly still be invited to the Games. There is a limit to how many competitors each nation can field, and with a large number of Canadians at the top of the rankings, some will have to drop out and Sarsfield will be elevated into the field as the first reserve.
However, the British Olympic Association has previously said that it will not select competitors who are a “second invitation”. Would that apply to Sarsfield if she was elevated into the field? Or would she be classed as a first pick because others are ineligible? Frustratingly, even at this late stage, no one seems to know.
“It's a massive grey area, and it might come down to the discretion of the selectors,” said Sarsfield. “I've been trying to get a dialogue going with them to explain why things have got to this point, and show what I would be capable of if I was given a place at the Games.
“Ski cross isn't like a lot of other sports where there are huge gulfs of class between the competitors. Our sport is so unpredictable, and there are so many crashes, that anything really can happen. I've beaten pretty much all of the girls above me in the rankings at some stage, and on any given day, there's no reason why that couldn't happen again.”
Having shelled out a fortune of her own money to compensate for a lack of central funding in order to keep her Olympic dream alive, Sarsfield would inevitably be hugely deflated if she was not allowed to compete in Sochi.
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Very disppointed about Emily. I thought she had met the qualification criteria already.
Ski cross is an event where anything can happen on the day and I think she stood as good a chance as any of the others of an upset.
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| boabski wrote: |
| cant believe the amount of cash spent on bobsled and skelton compared to skiing/boarding |
+1 and why aren't they combined like skiing and snowboarding?
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Richard_Sideways, The Alpine guys needed to be top 100 in the world + either 1 x top 30 in World cup or 2 x top 10 in Europa Cup.
Both TJ and Dougie are in the top 100 in both Downhill & Super Combined. TJ missed out on selection by just 0.29 secs over 2 races in Downhill with an 11th & 14th place in Europa cup Downhills.
They are the British No1 & 2 in Downhill, Super G & Super Combined and are definitely not no hopers as you put it! I think even Dougie would admit that he has just a good a chance as Chemmy in the Downhill, and he is going to marry her this year!
As I have said before GB had 8 men & 7 women who had gained places on the IOC 'A' standard qualification for Alpine skiing. We could have taken more so taking just 1 man & 1 woman is insane! Especially as BSS do not give any funding or support to the Alpine speed guys.
There will be a large number of skiers from other non-alpine nations who will have their full quota in the Downhill/Super G/ Super Combined/ GS Including Thailand! Who's Alpine skiing team is the same size as GB's!!!!!!!
Emily Sarsfield should also have been selected.
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Probably because at some time in the past they have had former military officers convince the BOA that they should be separate, so far as I can see very little of the beauracracy makes any sense whatsoever, much as I think Chemmy has done really well to get fit and be on the list honesty does make me think that Emily probably had a greater chance
Last edited by After all it is free  on Wed 22-01-14 11:04; edited 1 time in total
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Because they're good and have a track record (excuse the pun) of delivering shiny media friendly athletes and shiny media friendly medals.
Until this year, our chances in skiing and snowboarding were, frankly, a bit sparse. Thanks to the inclusion of Slopestyle we might actually have a shot at some success in a sliding discipline for a while (until China works out that gymnasts make REALLY GOOD slopestyle athletes)
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And why was Chemmy selected and Emily not ? Surely Team GB have broken their own selection process ?
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emwmarine, A whole lot more met the IOC qualifying standards, but the BOC had higher standards and seemingly financial objectives to meet as well! Looks to me like a fair few people capable of competing with the best in world will be sat watching it on TV like the rest of us.
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Plugboy, didn't realise that either, madness not take your full quota!
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Plugboy, I know you're closer to this than most, and I for one would love to see a properly funded and represented UK downhill team. But realistically, do we have anyone capable of getting into that world class top-10 field where they could genuinely challenge? For right or wrong BOC / Team GB / BSS simply aren't interested in valiant 28ths anymore, they don't have the money to spare.
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You know it makes sense.
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Richard_Sideways, the guys are self funding, they qualify, why not let them go?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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sarah, +1
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| Hells Bells wrote: |
| sarah, +1 |
+2 with the caveat that they qualify on technical merit and not just because of some obscure rule that allows their entry.
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Richard_Sideways, for downhill races it's really not just the top 10 who can medal, ok first place is probably top 10, but podiums frequently happen for people in top twenty and occasionally lower
Emily Sarsfield should be going, ok she's currently ranked 39 in the world but 5 of those in front of her cannot go as only 3 people per country can compete, this would raise her to 34 in the word this year, by comparison Chemmy has managed just one finish this season in 91st place, whilst Emily has been in 10 races this season with top 32 results in 6 and never out of the top 40
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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By taking your full quota of athletes it will mean more British television exposure for our athletes which will help with private sponsorship/funding and encourage a new generation to compete.
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isn't it appropriate that the banner at the side of the page is our Chemmy 
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If Emily is ranked 39th, does she make it? I know people below her will drop out, but they only accept 32 in the actual race.
BOC should sort stuff out, the sad fact is that people need serious race starts in order to become great; not letting these guys go now (or to the world championship) is affecting medal opportunities down the road (2018) etc.
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I'm also disappointed to hear Emily Sarsfield hasn't been selected. We met her at the ski show and she was very friendly and gave the children signed posters etc. We had been looking forward to watching her in the ski cross.
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snowymum,
Me too. We met and watched her in the skier cross at Nakiska this year. She seemed nice and did well in that race
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Ill be rooting for Rowan Cheshire as she only started to learn to ski 7 years ago, at my local hill (Stoke Ski Centre  )
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| D G Orf wrote: |
Richard_Sideways, for downhill races it's really not just the top 10 who can medal, ok first place is probably top 10, but podiums frequently happen for people in top twenty and occasionally lower
Emily Sarsfield should be going, ok she's currently ranked 39 in the world but 5 of those in front of her cannot go as only 3 people per country can compete, this would raise her to 34 in the word this year, by comparison Chemmy has managed just one finish this season in 91st place, whilst Emily has been in 10 races this season with top 32 results in 6 and never out of the top 40 |
Plus one race she was doing much better in the other week was cancelled before the end due to bad weather.
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| davkt wrote: |
| emwmarine, A whole lot more met the IOC qualifying standards, but the BOC had higher standards and seemingly financial objectives to meet as well! Looks to me like a fair few people capable of competing with the best in world will be sat watching it on TV like the rest of us. |
A cycnical view would be that Chemmy got in due to her profile and ability to get BBC, sky et all. Not saying she didn't deserve to but Emily is improving all the time and has demonstrated she can compete at the top level.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads on Wed 22-01-14 21:46; edited 1 time in total
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