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What is the deal with off-piste skiing in Italy?

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I'm sure there are posts on this already but I didn't find them... apologies if it's been done before.

I gather from things I've read on the interweb, and also from big signs by the lifts in the Dolomites that off piste skiing is subject to legal restrictions in Italy. Is there a definitive description of what this entails anywhere?

I'm curious... clearly people do ski off piste, I saw plenty of tracks in the Dolomites this week. Also, there's a great book all about it by Temolada, he mentions that skiing close to the piste may be illegal but does not go in to any detail.

So, what's the deal? Is it OK with a guide? Is it OK if you are well away from pistes? Is it technically illegal but the law is ignored? Do people get pulled over for going off piste? If so, by whom, lifties, police?

As an aside, the Dolomites looks like a superb place to ski off-piste, from a brief visit I can't think of anywhere better in the right conditions... I'm certainly going to look to book a guide for a day or 2 next time I'm there.
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We have done this more than once, but I think the conclusion was that you need avi gear in Piedmont (although the SKGB link implies off piste skiing is illegal in Italy).

http://www.onthesnow.co.uk/news/a/6430/italy-passes-avalanche-law-for-off-piste-skiers--heavy-fines

http://www.natives.co.uk/news/going-off-piste-in-italy-avalanche-safety-gear-is-now-mandatory/4839

http://www.wheretoskiandsnowboard.com/news/italy-tightens-the-reins/

http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/skiresorts/countrymountain.aspx/Italy#.UtldOPRdWSo

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g194799-i8056-k2586081-Off_piste_new_legislation_regarding_avalanche_safety-Livigno_Province_of_Sondrio_Lombardy.html
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musher, great set of links thanks!

The law looks to be not confined to Piedmont though, judging by the signs I saw in the Dolomites (I *think* I only saw them in the Arabba area, so that would be Veneto).

The Piedmont law seems to require the correct equipment, but the signs I saw seem to be more in line with the blanket ban mentioned on the SCGB site.
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Off piste (and glacial) skiing is very common in Courmayeur.

Indeed the Monte Bianco and Arpe (or is it the Youla, the higher one, whichever that is) lifts only service off piste.
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What I mean to say by the observation above is that I can't see that the mere act of skiing off-piste can be illegal in Italy.
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midgetbiker wrote:
What I mean to say by the observation above is that I can't see that the mere act of skiing off-piste can be illegal in Italy.


Completely agree... but that's not what the signs (and the SCGB piece) said Sad

The Punta Indren lift above Alagna also serves only off piste I think, and the Tourist Board in Alagna would need to update their slogan if it really was banned.
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"Although it is actually illegal to ski off-piste in Italy"

Bull poo-poo.
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didn't they have some ridiculous fine for triggering an avalanche which meant that anyone who triggered one and survived simply legged it rather than reporting..
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Found an earlier thread after all: http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=78687

Although no definitive answer there either...
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From the police in Courmayeur that I've talked to. Off piste no problem.....properly equipped. And yes they were waiting at Zerotta checking on people coming down form Crest d'arp.......was nice to see all the idiot's we had just told to wee wee off and stop following us. They all got "talked to" by the police.
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I don't think they care until there is an incident and then they will look at where you were what gear you have and who else you endangered, depending on where you go there's lots of signs saying no off piste usually to be found in the lift hut windows or the gantries of the entrance.
That said they don't care too much some lifties will shout at you if you do it under their lifts but if they cant see you it's all good, that and the fact the local ski school will likely offer off piste lessons it's all a bit of a grey area but I would do it and worry about that later
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