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Collision risk: what are we going to do about it?

 Poster: A snowHead
Poster: A snowHead
jedster, Bode Swiller, I know, it is incomprehensibly stupid. I feel for all concerned, albeit for radically different reasons.
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 Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
gorilla, I just want the law to hunt him down and staple the FIS Rules to his scrotum - then at least there's a chance he might look at them once in a while. Sharia Law might work in these circumstances.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Bode Swiller,
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I just want the law to hunt him down and staple the FIS Rules to his scrotum



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thecramps, good idea, better to be safe than sorry....
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 Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
fatbob wrote:
zikomo, You're really not getting this internet discussion thing are you?

Scenario as caught on Go Pro

You're the dad.

Do you get punchy? Is there anything you possibly got wrong?

http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/12/03/video-snowboarder-crashes-child-father-smacks-boarder


Agree I am not getting the discussion thing - seems that if you disagree with anyone, think anyone should be held to account for their actions, or have the temerity to insist people respond to what was actually said (rather than what they think or would like to have been said) then you are just not getting it. I am not going to agree with you just because you expect it, surely that is what a discussion is?

Would never punch someone like that. Completely unacceptable behaviour. I am struggling to see a good reason for the parent/child being where they were, unless they are recovering from some other kind of incident. I would definitely avoid being in a similar position if I could.

That being said I do think the snowboarder should have exercised more caution, but looks like noone was hurt. I would probably have pointed out to him the code, told him to slow down, and hope that he would learn to expect the unexpected in the future.

Not sure what you mean by "Is there anything you got wrong"? Perhaps you can clarify.
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ulmerhutte wrote:
zikomo, you are quite a belligerent fellow. Perhaps take a chill pill and think carefully about what you have written.

Of course, it is impossible to avoid all risk in skiing, except by not participating. If you choose to take your kids skiing, you have made a decision to expose them to that risk. Should a risk be realised, ie an incident occurs, you can try to apportion blame, but in the end it was your decision that put them in that situation.


Makes complete sense to me. Same as when an innocent bystander is gunned down on the street, they put themselves in that situation so frankly it is their own fault…..

Meanwhile back in the real world….if someone causes injury through wilful negligence (or indeed criminal intent) then that person is to blame. It is not my decision to expose myself or my children to that risk.

I am tired of repeating that I accept skiing has inherent risks, I just don't think those should include people skiing in a deliberately and avoidably dangerous manner. Accidents happen for which there is no blame, but incidents also happen for which there is clear blame. Clearly this is a complicated theory as you and others seem to ignore when I say it, and struggle to understand it.

Not sure why you feel the need to get personal by accusing me of belligerence and advise me to take a chill pill. I would never suggest the same to you based on what you have written….
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 Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
zikomo, I do kind of see what you are trying to say, but I'm not 100% sure because of some of the odd things you say. That thing with the bystander getting gunned down is frankly bizarre. It's a basic principle.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
It IS bizarre and deliberately so Very Happy

If you read what I was responding to you would see why. Ulmerhutte wrote "Should a risk be realised, ie an incident occurs, you can try to apportion blame, but in the end it was your decision that put them in that situation." Essentially saying, if someone deliberately skis into you it is your fault as you made the decision to be there. How odd! If some skis into someone else completely accidentally (a very rare occurrence I would say) then THAT is the acceptable consequence of my decision to be there. If someone does it deliberately or negligently, that is by default their decision, there fault, and an unacceptable risk that they are imposing on others.
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