 Poster: A snowHead
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So I think we are all crystal that base edges should be left at or set to 1 and side set to 1-3 degrees for any sort of rec skiing. Not that I believe anyone questioned this or suggested otherwise. However, the question sort of remains as to how long you should iron on the wax for a diy rec skier using a standardish wax. My ski's come up looking "glossy" and smooth and have a lovely glide on the slopes but could I possibly be damaging the internals of the ski with waxing too hot? Is the iron until the tip and tale sections have a warm topsheet guide likely to shorten the life of your skis? How would such damage manifest itself?
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Mon 27-01-14 15:09; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Layne, I only have my iron set to 100C - 110C and just ironing enough to fully melt the wax in will make the top sheet slightly warm. I've been doing that for 6 years and the skis are fine, but with a foam core I can imagine that going too hot may decrease the stiffness over time. I've always put my wax on and done quick passes 4 or five times per ski over 20 minutes just to get the wax well into the base. A bit of Zardoz on first helps too. I am looking more for longevity of my base and wax as opposed to making the skis fractionally quicker. In the past I have skied for 4 weeks topping up the Zardoz each day and suffered no greying or fluffing of my bases.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 8-01-14 17:21; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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skimottaret, I did set my fatter skis to a 0.7 base angle as they already took a little time to get on edge, can't say I felt much difference but I've stuck with it. I totally agree on warning people not to go too far with edge angles, unless you are racing why would you need to go beyond 2 or 3?
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Avalanche Poodle, you probably wouldn't on fat skis but SL skis on .2 compared to 1 are a whole different animal.. I know of at least of couple of injuries recently with overtuned ski being the culprit.
While I have a bit of sympathy for Primoz's argument that the ptex is thin and doesnt take long to warm up but for me the key thing is to ensure the ski is as warm as possible before waxing , no point putting wax onto a cold base that has been outside. if you cant warm up the ski indoors then preheat with the iron and a good measure is when you can feel the top sheet is warm as you put in the wax. I would say to let iron in the wax until the topsheet is warm at a minimum then leave to cool at least a couple hours, overnight if possible.
Why do racers use hotboxing? The longer warm wax stays on the base the better the penetration
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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skimottaret, Yup, for my type of skiing I'd even keep my SL's at 0.7 or 1. Racers don't tend to run those things flat as you would do at times when recreational skiing. I haven't caught an edge on the flat in years, and don't want to start now lol
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Well, Ive waxed n scraped n brushed n waxed n scraped n brushed...... numerous times.
Ive sharpened my edges, set at 2deg.
Am getting a cheap workmate bench tomorrow at Aldi (been using dining table) & will give edges a final check n polish with abrasive rubber.
That's the extent of my tuning at the mo. I'll get to test em on Sat in Tignes.
I'll let ya know how they perform compared to last month in 3V's, when I could've done with a bit more purchase/bite.
I'm taking my sharpener with me to keep an edge on em & y liquid wax, as we are there for 8 days & expect variable conditions in resort.
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franzClammer, I've just been given some portable stands, alloy blocks with bases and a layer of blue tack on the top. Stick the skis to them and they are easy to sharpen every couple of days when away.
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franzClammer, Bring them to Hemel next time you are there; as long as not Saturday or Wednesday I should be there; I'll take a look and see if there is anything obviously wrong with them.
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scooby_simon, Cheers mate, will do
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