 Poster: A snowHead
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Twice in the last two days I've had a binding release for no obvious reason. I'm getting a bit worried about it and looking for any advice/theories on what's going on.
The skis are Fischer Watea 88 with Fischer branded bindings. Now in their third week of use. The boots are Salomon X-Max 120, now in their second week of use. Fitted to the skis by the shop.
Both times the release has happened likes this -
I've come up the mountain in a gondola. Put my skis on (definitely in and with no problems getting in). Started skiing on a gentle traverse. After a few metres noticed that i can't get my edge in on my right ski. A moment later the right ski is off and I'm on the deck. Smooth piste, no shock loading. According to the skier behind me it looked like the heel of the boot had just come out of the binding.
Any ideas? I'm thinking that a bit of ice has had time in the gondola to harden up nicely before I put the ski on, but surely if there's a lump on the sole of the boot then the binding shouldn't engage?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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An iced sole can lead to a binding semi-locking but ready to pop off with any extra pressure. Always best to check before standing in your bindings.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Valkyrie, check the forward pressure is set correctly.
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Yup - if in doubt take them to a shop ski tech, not worth getting an injury.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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sounds like ice but yes, take them to a shop to check.
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More info - just remembered that when I picked up my ski the binding was in the closed position, so it hadn't actually fully released. Does that make insufficient forward pressure seem the likely issue?
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the binding was in the closed position, so it hadn't actually fully released
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to my mind that makes ice the most likely issue - but I'm no binding expert.
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Ice seems the Likely culprit but it just seems odd to me that I've never had this issue with any other boot/binding combination.
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Valkyrie, It could just be more the current snow conditions. I've had days when it builds up really hard layers on the boot sole, mostly don't have a problem with it though. Have a look at both boots and bindings.. are the gaps exactly the same as you put the boot in the binding or has one binding moved position. Can you or someone else twist the boot in position and pop the binding and if so do both feel like they are releasing at the same pressure?
But a shop could do all that in 5 minutes, probably wouldn't even charge for it, especially if you bought something else 
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I've a pair of Blizzards with which I have a lot of problems with the bindings fully engaging. Spyderjon has checked them out twice and there's nothing wrong with them. They seem to click in much better on a firmer, flatter surface. I just have to be very careful that they're in right each time.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Well the Intersport in Fiss was very quiet at 9am this morning so I got a ski tech to check my bindings. Nothing wrong with them but the forward pressure was at the minimum acceptable. After listening to my problem the tech increased the forward pressure by one notch, which takes it to just under the maximum. Engagement feels much more positive and thus far the problem hasn't reappeared, so I'm hoping that's it fixed. Tech also reviewed my DIN settings and did it all free of charge, so bigs thumbs up for Intersport Fiss.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Valkyrie, Glad you got it sorted and have peace of mind. Ski techs seem to be always prepared to help out with any safety matter.
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In case anyone else has a similar problem - I skiied for 3 days after increasing the binding forward pressures and the problem didn't come back. Not 100% conclusive evidence but good enough for me to think that the higher forward pressure is a good thing.
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