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Fore-aft balance: survey results

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In March 2013 we posted a link to a short SurveyMonkey survey on Snowheads, and 3 other English-language forums

The survey was to discover where skiers believe they should focus their fore/aft balance - in other words, the centre of pressure on the sole of the foot (or ski boot) while skiing.

To the best of our knowledge, this has not been researched before.

We promised to feedback the results, after presenting at the International Science and Skiing Congress (ICSS) ... so we've now posted the results on:

http://skibalance.info

Thanks very much for your help
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balance survey, s there a summary of the findings?
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holidayloverxx, here:

http://skibalance.info/page11.php
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holidayloverxx, it says your bum is big . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (can I run fast enough?)
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Very mixed bag of results Puzzled particularly from a sample containing so many advanced and professional skiers. That does raise the question of teaching standards (not in a pejorative way from me, genuine interest) .
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Masque, if you think you can run fast enough, keep going..... Laughing
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balance survey wrote:

We promised to feedback the results, after presenting at the International Science and Skiing Congress (ICSS) ... so we've now posted the results on:

http://skibalance.info

Thanks very much for your help



Thanks for coming back to us with the results balance survey.

The majority don't Sad

Considerations for further study might include the forward lean angle of the ski boot cuff.

I had an instance last week where a more experienced skier was struggling to achieve whole foot pivotting when compared with an intermediate skier because the experienced skier had a forward lean of 23.5 degrees compared with 14 degrees for the intermediate skier.

The experienced skier knew where he wanted to put his balance but the equipment limited his execution.

PM Me if you'd like to discuss further.

Did you enjoy the ICSS?

I attended the first one back in 1996. Tremendous time. Very Happy
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Mike Pow, That AND binding 'ramp angle'.

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The experienced skier knew where he wanted to put his balance but the equipment limited his execution
There is a discussion there on the ability/willingness of the skier to adapt/compensate/use as designed to be, their equipment. We are all guilty of over-specifying our equipment with the self belief that 'we will grow into it' wink
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Masque wrote:
Mike Pow, That AND binding 'ramp angle'.


Absolutely.

Mike Pow wrote:
The experienced skier knew where he wanted to put his balance but the equipment limited his execution


Masque wrote:
There is a discussion there on the ability/willingness of the skier to adapt/compensate/use as designed to be, their equipment. We are all guilty of over-specifying our equipment with the self belief that 'we will grow into it' wink


There was definitely ability and willingness.

He's geting new boots.
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Masque, "We are all guilty of over-specifying our equipment with the self belief that 'we will grow into it' "

No. We're not. Not all of us.
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No. We're not. Not all of us.
+1
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No. We're not. Not all of us.
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Agreed.
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That touched a nerve Toofy Grin
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 You know it makes sense.
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Masque wrote:
Very mixed bag of results Puzzled particularly from a sample containing so many advanced and professional skiers. That does raise the question of teaching standards (not in a pejorative way from me, genuine interest) .


Not 'standard' as such, but methods. Just as you can see varying styles of skiing from different nations (see the Interski comparisons videos), it could be that those styles lend themselves to differing pressures/angles/variations throughout the turn.

It'd be interesting to see how the pressure positioning breaks down based on teaching methodology that they were taught with.
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 Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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It might just show that people can't reliably self-report where they actually balance via a web survey. NehNeh
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meh, aye!
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I tried to change the e-mail linked to my account and managed to deactivate it Embarassed
...so have re-registered on this account

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It might just show that people can't reliably self-report where they actually balance via a web survey.


Remember, the survey hasn't measured where people actually balance, which is a whole other research project - it's where they aim to balance, and therefore purely assessing knowledge/beliefs
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I've just swapped my binding mounting 20mm forward. It'll be interesting noting the perceived difference. They are twin tips though so it'll make park stuff easier.
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Avalanche Poodle, i suspect you will perceive a difference but an hinest observer would not snowHead
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under a new name, I'll probably not notice as it'll be the first ski of the season. I'll still be getting my ski legs in Laughing Riding switch might be easier.
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