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Flet©h, Nail on head. Just what I need to sort out in my daughter's boyfriend's skiing.
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not skiing parallel but instead just going from hockey stop to hockey stop down the mountain
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Fattes13,
I've got one of those in a class at the moment. Didn't get the plough, week three and he's railing, right posture, parallel shins and everything. If he can introduce a skid, he should be okay, as it is he's limited to the turn radius of his skis, which is admittedly about 5m. I'm just trying not to make him do anything that mucks it up.
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rob@rar, perhaps time to insert your youtube video shown in Tignes ???
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thirty06, Its a tough one as if he skis like that in resort imminent impact will not be far away  He is a good kid but as an instructor sometimes you have to just try and pull him back a little for the long term good. Trying to strike a balance right now is leadign to some very creative teaching
oldmancoyote, Brand new rentals that the club has only put out this season and probably have an hours use so nope, his Daddy is a French man and a skier, I guess he watches skiing on TV and has a picture in his head! He even has hockey stops down!!
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| hobbiteater wrote: |
| useful down a narrow track - i mean one narrower that the length of your skis. |
I was just going to post that. When skiing from the back of our apartment it is the easiest way to control the speed.
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I can think of a number of reasons (grateful for feedback from those better qualified):
(1) There's nothing wrong with snowploughing in 'real' skiing. As others have said, for narrow and/or crowded tracks, and also in tight spots off-piste, e.g. among trees, rocks, crevasses, etc. I don't know of any instructor or off-piste guide who would be ashamed of using a plough in those circumstances. So you should learn it sometime if you're serious about being a versatile skier.
(2) It's a pretty easily controlled and sensitive accelerator/brake pedal, which should give novices confidence in controlling speed.
(3) It allows turning without the need to get the centre of gravity outside the platform provided by the skis. So novices can get used to a little bit of speed and controlling their trajectory without demanding levels of commitment that many would find problematic until they have a little more confidence.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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laundryman, correct on all counts.
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rob@rar, thank you. 
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I'm a plower and proud of it 
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You know it makes sense.
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Fattes13, "ours" were new too. In fact, they'll touch snow for the first time on Wednesday at the PSB. Or as much of them as two hours of scraping allows.
BTW - not implying anything on the skills of the 5 year old in question; I was just griping about the skis!
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Thu 28-11-13 18:56; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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foxtrotzulu,
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I'm a plower and proud of it
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Perhaps you are even a 'Power Plower'!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| foxtrotzulu wrote: |
| I'm a plower and proud of it |
Are you a proud plower or a proud plougher? Which of these is correct?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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emwmarine, that's what I was getting at too!! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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We can always add value to a debate even when it gets technical.
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| laundryman wrote: |
I can think of a number of reasons (grateful for feedback from those better qualified):
(1) There's nothing wrong with snowploughing in 'real' skiing. As others have said, for narrow and/or crowded tracks, and also in tight spots off-piste, e.g. among trees, rocks, crevasses, etc. I don't know of any instructor or off-piste guide who would be ashamed of using a plough in those circumstances. So you should learn it sometime if you're serious about being a versatile skier.
(2) It's a pretty easily controlled and sensitive accelerator/brake pedal, which should give novices confidence in controlling speed.
(3) It allows turning without the need to get the centre of gravity outside the platform provided by the skis. So novices can get used to a little bit of speed and controlling their trajectory without demanding levels of commitment that many would find problematic until they have a little more confidence. |
Sounds good to me. Of course, the other end of the spectrum is, "When it doubt, tuck it out...!"
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An apology. After several pints of Hen in the Golden Fleece celebrating a friends birthday, this post seemed like a laugh whilst I was nibbling my kebab. I did think it was obviously BS, but alas some seem to have taken it to heart. I am sorry. My ankle injury is genuine, but I do plough, but have had to tweek the method by facing 30 degrees to the right of my direction of travel. It took some practise to get right, but it is effective and means I can control my speed on narrow or crowded pistes and coulours, and happily for me it doesn't hurt.
Once again, I apologise to all those who took offence. Now I need some aspirin and a nice lie down. I am never drinking again! 
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thecramps, good luck with the ankle, head, liver, etc!
I don't think anyone here minds being stirred up occasionally. 
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Thankyou laudryman
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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thecramps, pure gold! Hope you feel better soon.
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You know it makes sense.
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under a new name, Never seen that before, incredible run, must put that on my to do list.
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Megamum, Yes I think the hen probably is on me, but as I said, I shall stick to orange juice as I'm never drinking again. The scary thing is that our plan had been to start at lunchtime and push on through to last orders. As it was by 8pm we were done, 3 sad forty somethings longing for a kebab and a comfy chair.
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Poster: A snowHead
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under a new name, Isn't that what downhill racing used to be? . . . love to do it
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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under a new name, thanks for posting this. It's less than an hour and a half from home for me - will try it later in the season!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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under a new name, awesome! Simply awesome!
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Amazing. The left ski went straight ALL the way!  That's got to be one of the most beautiful places in the Alps.
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Spyderman, oldmancoyote, ssh, I must note immediately that the skier isn't me, but a chum. Who has a significantly higher pain threshold and a much smaller sense of self preservation than I do. I was a few starts behind and a little slower.
In fairness, the "racing snowplough" is (most of the time anyway) [I think], a distortion artifact of the GoPro's lens.
Masque, they don't let you do it on a snowboard. - It's a softened version of downhill racing as of 1928 
Pedantica, it is very pretty indeed, and we were totally blessed last year with amazing weather and conditions. The full course doesn't get run very often.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Fri 29-11-13 9:59; edited 1 time in total
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under a new name, old pair of SuperG skis, or full on DH boards?
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thecramps, all is forgiven, considering you had under a new name pull out this beauty.
rob@rar, I was wondering the same. Can't recognise the model, other than they are Salomon.
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I used to teach the plow and the braking plow to stop when I was teaching more than one beginner.
It's essential in this instance to ensure the student knows how to stop independent of the instructor.
When I teach beginners now I only ever teach them one-on-one and I don't teach the plow.
I teach straight running and then parallel turning using the completion of the turn as the speed control movement.
It works for me and for my students.
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rob@rar, Old SGs. 201cm IIRC. I have skied it on 210cm Rossi junior DH which were lovely and 218cm Sally DH which were vile and boring.
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under a new name, respect. Those things don't have much interest in turning.
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