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setting up ski vices - am I doing something wrong?

 Poster: A snowHead
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Megamum, why are you warming skis after waxing, they need to cool???

Did you scrape after their first application???
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Megamum, process is clean, warm, wax, cool, scrape, brush. Curious about this post-wax warming you're doing?
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albinomountainbadger,

This must be Megamum's hot box Shocked
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keeping the skis warm after waxing maximises the amount of wax absorbed by the bases
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FWIW.. waxing my skis.

I stand my skis near vertically against a wall with a newspaper between the tips and carpet / floor. If it's a particularly nice apartment I'll put a towel between the top ski tips and the wall too. Actually I don't worry if I don't have newspaper, just don't go silly with the wax.

Put binding elastic thingy on.
Do edges. File downwards as as the floor is in the way and as such the skis don't move - eliminates need for vice
Ski still vertical wax with iron. Start at top work down wax flows down the ski - then onto newspaper. It's easy not to waste any wax this way.
Scrape any excess wax into newspaper (again, downwards). Must admit I often skipped this part - especially if I didn't have a newspaper.

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Two blocks of wood or bricks with blue tack on the top will hold a ski firmly Smile
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Well Spyderjon speaks about a hot box that he warms the waxed skis in, and I can't see the problem in leaving the wax on for a few days if I don't have time to scrape it straight away. So I reasoned that if I left them to one side I might as well leave them somewhere warm as put them somewhere cooler. Before I scraped last time I moved them away from the warmth and let them cool to room temp. They don't get too warm - I keep checking, but I think they are getting to the sort of temp. that the iron gets them to when you feel the warmth coming through the skis which I was told was a good thing to happen. From what I understand it's probably not doing any harm and who knows it might be helping. I just need to get them properly cool before I scrape them and if I do so I can't see that it's done any harm.
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After hot scrape cleaning the bases & brass brushing to open the structure of the skis/board a generous layer of the selected wax is ironed in & then the skis/board are placed in the hot box for 3-4 hours at 140-150F/60-65C, depending on the wax used. The bases are then left to fully cool before scraping & brushing in the usual manner ready for use.

http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk/content/view/50/72/

From Spyderjon's site, a little bit less temp than I was thinking when I first read about hot boxing.
Looks like the most important part is to leave them to fully cool before scraping.
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Looks like the most important part is to leave them to fully cool before scraping.


Yup, from what I have learned, this allows the structure of the ski to contract thus locking in the absorbed wax and is therefore important as if you brushed and scraped them whilst still warm I imagine that you could drag out the wax so carefully impregnated.
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kitenski, yes, I left them in a warm place for a couple of days then let them thoroughly cool, scraped and brushed them and then waxed again.
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albinomountainbadger, NehNeh Nope, but they are my own skis and I want them to last as long as possible, if letting them stay warm after waxing might do some good it's no skin off of my nose to do so esp. when they have to stand somewhere for a couple of days if I don't have time to complete the process in one hit.
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I'm not disputing hot boxing (even though that's clearly *not* what is happening here), when I first read megamum's post I understood it to mean that she wasn't going to wait for her skis to cool before scraping, she was going to keep them at a warm temperature and then scrape all the wax clean off.

Was it only kitenski and me who actually read this?

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I have six skis sitting by the fire getting gently warm at the moment with their second coat of wax on them. Next job is the scraping them again when I get a next spare hour.
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albinomountainbadger, yeah, but I didn't mean staight away Laughing - Yes, I'm new to this, but I have done the training course (a few years back), and I have also printed out the instructions to remind me. I assumed that cololing them before scraping might be understood as a given, but I now see the well meant confusion. There were two sentences there with a full stop in, perhaps they should have been different paragraphs Toofy Grin . The wax is still on them and the fire has been switched overnight so they are quite cold now and would be fine to scrape if I found time today. If not they can stay where they are and go through another cycle or more and I doubt it would hurt them.
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Megamum, all cleared up then! It is very satisfying to do a nice job yourself. Enjoy!
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Job all done Very Happy 6 nice shiny skis all put away safe for next February. I scraped and brushed and finished with a coat zardoz. The best and most satisfying tool is a lovely brass brush that came in the kit. It's not a bad job. I hope I've done them right, but I got all the right tools from Spyderjon and followed the instructions and did the course some time in the past so hopefully they will be fine. If anyone is thinking of giving it a go all I can say is it must be doable, if I can do it then anyone can Very Happy

I sorted out the vices for scraping by moving the skis around a bit and setting the vices as wide apart as I could. It worked OK to get the job done this time.
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Megamum, Yup, there will always be a way to get them done. I need to scrape of my storage wax and prep mine too in the next few weeks.


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Apparently, the most important part of the process was missed. The beer consumed as you work on the skis! Shocked Laughing Laughing
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