Poster: A snowHead
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One of our group really struggles with cold fingers this is even after investing in a pair Hestra gloves at £170 and wearing liners inside them. I have an ultra thin silk top which i purchased in america and really cant remember the name of and the label has now faded but it keeps me toasty warm even though it is so thin it is almost see through. So I am trying to find some ultra thin silk glove liners which can be worn in addition to the glove liners and actual gloves ie 3 layers on the hands.
anyone know where i can get them from or anything similar.
thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Decathlon.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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MogulMonkey, I don't know if there will be a list of exhibitors anywhere that might give you a clue, but there was a stall at the Manchester ski show that was selling those very things - about £13 a pair IIRC, maybe someone else will remember the name for you.
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Or a Go Outdoors.
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+1 Decathlon £8 pp
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Patra £11.95 pp
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Decathlon silk liners are £10 for 2 pairs just now. Absolute bargain.
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Or any motorcycle clothing shop. I got mine from Hein Gericke.
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I paid over £20 for my Dainese ones for the motorbike, but they are better inners than anything else I've tried. Available any good bike shop, I got mine from P & H in Crawley.
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Surprised that a lot of people don't realise why hands and feet get so cold. I used to get really cold hands until I did some Google research. Make sure you keep your core (torso) nice and toasty and that helps massively. Basically stops your organs screaming for blood which equates to heat and allows more blood to remain in the extremities.
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swishtony, basicly you are right but other factors do have influence, f. eks. if you are a 40 kg. lady it dose matter over a long day outside.
The main los of heat is the heads- so ninja-hat and helmet vil help the core temperatur -however I have tried this glove in 3 finger version with liner for my females.
It dos work (for 40 kg lady).
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Hyst, yes of course, just making the point that I think a lot of people get tied up too much over the gloves and don't think enough about warming their core. Defo makes a difference on which gloves you use of course but even if you have the ultimate gloves, if your core is cold, they won't help much.
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You know it makes sense.
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MogulMonkey,
To echo a little of the above, I looked at doing a Snowshepherd silk glove liner for this season and after testing some, last season, from the main manufacturer of silk glove liners then I would suggest that the cheaper ones are not really worth it, the pair we tested I failed and would not dream of selling them. The trade cost to me was only £3 but they were the same glove as many people sell at about 13 to 20
The best I have seen around are the Hestra ones but a little on the expensive side!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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MogulMonkey, My wife has a pair of Hestra mitts which came with an angora inner glove included. I've been trying to find the model on the website but I can't be sure. We bought them in Sweden whilst on a very cold ski trip a couple of years back. They are extremely warm. She rarely uses the inner but when they're needed they really do the job. Mitts are the way to go if you suffer with cold hands but I'd also endorse swishtony's comments. Even make sure socks and boot inners are dry before your day. It makes a huge difference. Maintaining energy is also essential. I carry a bag of nuts and raisins. You'd be surprised the difference a couple of handfuls can make after a cold lift ride.
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Poster: A snowHead
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MogulMonkey, Found that Hestra mitt. Its's the aptly named 'Cozy Mitt.'
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Proper breakfast, warm core is key. Don't buy Icebreaker silk liners, they are lousy quality, go cheap at Go Outdoors and throw them away when they rip and buy new.....in my experience they'll get lost or rip after a few days, not worth going expensive! Nothing worse than cold hands, also ensure your outers aren't too tight. Lastly keep moving and plenty of arm exercises before you start skiing.....whirlies etc, gets blood flowing out from your core to extremeties.
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If silk liners are hard to find consider basic thin running gloves such as are periodically available in Lidl Aldi or runing stores. SportsDirect do karrimor liners as well for a couple of quid IIRC.
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Lady Flashman, who is of a slight build, suffers very badly from cold and poor circulation in her hands. She's also an expert skier, so spends a lot of time on the slopes. After years of experimenting with expensive gloves, liners, heate gloves etc, she (and I) found that the best solution are some Gore-Tex overmittens (as snowboarders use) and a pair of decent winter cycling gloves inside (relatively thin, but still insulated). Also works out as a pretty cheap solution. Silk liners can go in there too, for extra warmth. I have not found that these liners help that much on their own stuffed into a glove - it is the warm air space between glove and mitt that seems to work so well. I don't suffer from cold in the same way, but when it's below -15 or so, I go to mitts with gloves inside. Has never let me down. The Gore Tex thing (or similar) is good, as damp makes things much colder, faster.
A very expensive pair of Hestra gloves did nothing for her - the layering effect of glove inside mitt is what sorted things out (which isn't really surprising, given that it is layering your torso in cold weather that keeps you warm, not a single, expensive layer with many components).
Also, as others have said, you need a warm core to to keep circulation flowing properly. Again, look to your layers. Carry a backpack too that if you get too hot you can remove a layer and stow it.
Hope that helps!
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While the mitts will be warmer than the gloves, the Hestra insulation is basically crap, even with silk or merino liners. Been there, done that, wasted the money.
No need to give up skiing though.
For those who have good circulation but scant body fat to keep you warm, own excellent insulating garments to cover the core but still get cold hands, nothing short of mitts with 200g Primaloft insulation will do.
I found nirvana last season in a pair of Black Diamond Mercury mitts. They are, by far, the best and warmest things I've ever worn on my hands (and still have the dexterity to grip ski poles).
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No problem at all with my Hestra gloves, have had 3 pairs, brilliant!
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1 pair Hestra gloves, 1 pair Hestra mitts. Perfect for me.
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Feast, Ditto, I have gloves and also a pair of those half mitt/ half glove type......toasty!
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On my 2nd pair of Hestra gloves. I made the mistake of buying the first pair "snug" fitting. This is all wrong as the tightness acts as a cold bridge and you just end up with freezing fingers. 2nd pair were larger and mittens. I never get cold hands now even without liners.
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A lake district merino brand EDZ has merino, silk and merino silver touch ph glove liners they have no seams in them £10 £12 and £15.
Not used them yet but they seem ok the merino supposedly 240 weight hats were not bad at a tenner either
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tobymory wrote: |
On my 2nd pair of Hestra gloves. I made the mistake of buying the first pair "snug" fitting. This is all wrong as the tightness acts as a cold bridge and you just end up with freezing fingers. 2nd pair were larger and mittens. I never get cold hands now even without liners. |
This is an important point - you need a little insulating warm air around your hands!
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My hestras keep my hands warm, down to minus 25 .
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lots of feedback so thanks to all...
many suggestions but he is an expert skier (20yrs expereince 2 times /year) and has never mastered the art of warm fingers. he managed to injure his ankle 2 days before we went early '13 only to find out he had a fractured ankle when we got home - he was sill better than me on one leg
it seems like mitts with inner gloves are the way to go so will suggest this as the way forward...
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You know it makes sense.
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