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Daily Mirror writer goes into stratospheric raptures describing Meribel holiday

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Lizzard, Yep, and with Goldie and Aitken stuck in the same time warp. Laughing
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
At least non of the kids were abducted.
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Because he canned the free child care.
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Free free child care come to that.
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Lizzard wrote:

Looking at Goldnitwit threads is like reading the comments section on the
Daily Telegraph - you can take bets on how many posts before someone
drags immigration into it.
In this case we're doing quite well at nearly 30 before we get to a load of
infantile squabbling over ancient ski club history.


boredsurfin wrote:
Lizzard, Yep, and with Goldie and Aitken
stuck in the same time warp. Laughing


"Goldnitwit". Sparkling wit(nit) as always. Your surname, Lizzard (which I shall not reveal to the studio audience) comes across like some sort of mediaeval instrument of torture. One can understand why.

The "freebie" that Gerry Aitken falsely accused me of claiming (an unsolicited Salomon backpack) came by post and was returned to the SCGB in Christmas wrapping paper. I sometimes wonder if it was a deliberate sting - they went to town on accusing me of claiming it (I'd just renewed my membership in the usual way), even discussing this in the boardroom (very unwise since this was slander).

I'm perfectly happy to deal with the 'free trips in journalism' issue, which can take the form of an elephant in the room in this type of discussion. But the point here - once again - is that we don't know what level of incentive (if any) was granted to Simon Bird in relation to the 'Meribel Mirror' trip. What's striking about his copy, apart from the mass of superlatives, is the number of times Mark Warner is mentioned. A normal benchmark among travel journalists, I'm told, is "tour operator plug in second paragraph" - at the latest!
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you can take bets on how many posts before someone drags immigration into it. In this case we're doing quite well at nearly 30 before we get to a load of infantile squabbling over ancient ski club history.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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 Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Suspect the 'freebie' aspect in skiing is only slightly less abused than in the motoring industry, stories of free thousand pound watches etc on car tests are fairly common.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
It's the responsibility of newspaper/online editors to sort out this situation. Journalists make a big thing (quite rightly) about politics/police/BBC/charities/institutions needing transparency.

It's not impossible for editors to follow simple codes of practice which explain to readers the basis on which articles are written and published.

Where the gift is low-value - e.g. a free theatre/concert ticket to the scribbler - the review tends to be more impartial and trustworthy. The bigger the value of the hospitality/freebie, the more the journalism mutates into what is - in effect - advertising. However, as long as there's a by-line, the author is responsible for their own words.

Again, it's important to stress that the article in question in this thread resulted from what may have been a paid-for ski holiday.

[that's enough sanctimonious scribbling. Ed]
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Who'd blame him for taking a freebie, if it was one? I certainly wouldn't.
Also ( i think this has been stated already) it's great to have articles that can lead families into skiing and into a week in the fresh air, in beautiful scenery. there is no better family vacation, even in the "dump your kid off with the nanny set" - what's wrong with the disdain of the ESF for a few hours each day - it's character building for kids
Imho it is a bit of a poncey sounding report in parts - the 5 a day cobblers makes me crack up: new labour, champagne socialist tosh and perhaps he is searching for a stepping stone to The Guardian where he can really camp it up with superlatives and dietary cliches. Just give the kids a couple of potatoes, a slice of cooked meat and a scraping of your cheese from your raclette - did for mine in the early years.
But seriously, the positives of that report, although rather twee outweigh the negatives of it by far imho
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Here, like an oasis in a commercial desert, is a sparkling little piece that's a model for us all. Every sentence is a gem ...

Notes on … Skiing in Austria by Johnnie Kerr [The Spectator, 26 October 2013]
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9064661/notes-on%E2%80%89-skiing-in-austria/

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Except for a few cattle it is entirely uninhabited during the non-season (rather like that hotel in The Shining), which effectively makes it one of the most wholesome ski resorts imaginable. There’s nothing there which doesn’t revolve around the sport, from the faded photographs on every hotel wall of the town’s first rickety button-lifts, to the countless inns and shops whose doors stay closed right up until first snowfall, at which point the whole place is suddenly transmogrified from an eerie ghost town into a percolating hive of activity, picking up exactly where it left off at the last cheerless arrival of summer.


The Spectator was founded in 1828 as a weekly magazine, though it was almost certainly a revival of a daily The Spectator which lasted for only a year from 1711 to 1712. Austrian skiing dates from the late 19th century (Kitzbuhel, for example, records its skiing origins in 1893. http://www.kitzbuehel.com/en/sports_leisure/winter/skiing/ski_history )
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I must thank David and Mr. Mirror man, I rarely use twitter but used it to ask the question about the holiday cost. I also entered a completion to drive the n ew Audi RS 6, which I won, so thank you. A day at milbrook driving all the sporty Audis followed by dinner with Audi and an over night stay for me and a guest at the inn at Woburn. Expect to see gushing trip reports next week. And yes absolutely free.
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 And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
Filthyphil30k, hilarious irony!
Please copy and paste your Twitter post/question, and the response you got ... or the relevant links to those posts.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
He was not very nice, and resented being asked questions ( odd for a journo) and then accused me of slagging off his kids.

Which I did not.

I have posted it already , look for @rs_hole ( my snappy twitter name) , I had to explian to Audi it was my twitter non de plume.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Filthyphil30k, As in Audi RS Toofy Grin
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 Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
boredsurfin, I am afraid not. It was a futile humour attempt. Proves nobody reads names!! Laughing
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Has proved to be apt.
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As in Audi RS not phonetically
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Your surname, Lizzard (which I shall not reveal to the studio audience)

You don't actually know my surname, Goldweasel, because you are not privy to the detail of my life and are behind the curve. Do not presume.
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Lizzard wrote:
You don't actually know my surname, Goldweasel, because you are not privy to the detail of my life and are behind the curve. Do not presume.


I think that constitutes being chewed up and spat out by a Lizzard....... Laughing
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Lizzard wrote:
You don't actually know my surname


Yes I do. It's "Git", with a few intervening letters.
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Lizzard wrote:
You don't actually know my surname


Yes I do. It's "Git", with a few intervening letters.

Lizzard wrote:
you are not privy to the detail of my life


That's an odd thing to say, since you let it all hang out on LinkedIn. Under "Groups and Associations" you list "SnowVole.com", but not "snowHeads.com".

Lizzard wrote:
you are ... behind the curve.


The traitorous curve of the snow vole!
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