 Poster: A snowHead
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A German cartographer claims the figures published by many resorts are inaccurate. In some cases they claim more than double the length of pistes. It has caused some sharp reaction and investigations have been launched. PlanetSKI reports.
http://www.planetski.eu/news/5295
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 10-09-13 13:31; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Also covered in the Sunday Times. Size does matter. 
PS you need to remove the [/spoiler] tag to get the link to work.
EDIT - PPS - someone's blitzed it. Thanks
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Tue 10-09-13 10:10; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Some resorts do not dispute the discrepancies but argue that skiers and snowboarders do not come down the slopes in a straight line. Rather they make turns and zig-zag so the figure represents the true distance they travel on the slopes. |
So there you go, it's OUR fault for straight-lining!
Nice find peteski, though you may want to take the word [/spoiler] off the url
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SRSLY - marketing people lie? Who knew? I demand a UN inquiry.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Interesting. I think it was always pretty obvious some resort exaggerate a lot.
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Dunno that total length of piste is all that significant for many folks? You can make up your actual distance skied simply by repeating runs - even on an overstated piste or two.
Personally I'd look more at the numbers and types of lifts when assessing a resort. And is it Ski-In / Ski-Out or a mystery bus tour to a huge gondola in the bottom of a valley below the snow line most of the time?
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Sorry folks removed the spoiler.This is where the yanks are cunning as they give there ski area's in hectares, So you never know how many km of pistes they got. But in there favour You can ski the whole mountian as long as it's in bounds if I'm correct.
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I'm sure the powers that be in Courmayeur are wildly optimistic when they claim 100km of piste. I think it's more like 40km, admittedly very good quality pistes, but easily covered in a day.
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There are lots of ways a ski resort can exaggerate the total piste length without resorting to the outright fibs mentioned in the Where to Ski and Snowboard article. These include putting a snow fence down the middle of the piste and calling it two separate pistes, or even forgetting the fence and just pisting two separate runs down the same slope, marking every little variation as a separate piste, eg piste A goes left around this tree, piste B goes right and of course that long winding run to the valley floor that is actually never open (many years ago Les Arcs used to have 2 marked on the piste map).
And why do they give the horizontal distance and not the total altitude change? For example one resort may have x,000m of total piste vertical whereas another resort may have y,000m. I may prefer the larger even if the horizontal distance is less.
Personally I find looking at the piste map gives the best impression of a resort.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Personally I quite enjoy grommed pistes. I agree with johnE - looking at the piste maps gives the best impression. Everybody knows that length isn't everything. Width is very important too, especially for the less experienced.
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*school boy snigger*
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Personally I quite enjoy grommed pistes. I agree with johnE - looking at the piste maps gives the best impression. Everybody knows that length isn't everything. Width is very important too, especially for the less experienced. |
Yeah, probably wouldn't want to go too wide the first few times
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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wasn't this discussed to a death by tedium at the time last year? and maybe the year before?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Trades Description Act?
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I've always thought some of those figures were surprisingly high. However I am particularly shocked that Verbier claim 120% more slope than they have. However, could it be that they (reasonably) include the itineraries and the report doesn't?
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