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Where does 'quiver' come from.

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I find that when people talk about their 'quiver' of skis, the use of the word gets me slightly irritated as it comes across as pretentious.

Now, I could be completely wrong and a 'quiver' of skis could be just as valid as a quiver of arrows.

Where does the expression come from? Is it a proper use of the word??
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A whole bunch of skis stacked up looks like a whole bunch of arrows.

It's a usage that's common and is pretty old so yes I'd say it was a 'proper' use of the word even if it's not in the OED.
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I am also guessing yes as to the collection of arrows symbolism

I think the other meaning of quiver is also true
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"Tremble or shake with a slight rapid motion"
I know I do that when I see a lot of nice skis together
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emwmarine, It's the original use of "quiverfull".

It means a good, right and godly number of skis so that "he may adore and admire your skiing grace in all and any snow conditions".

It has been bastardised by certain particularly dumb fundie christians in the US to justify stupidly large families.

Having many pairs of skis is not stupid - how else does one prepare to assist when His great noodly appendages need to be equipped?


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I have a quiver of kids
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SnowHeadius 3:18 wrote:

For He did gaze upon the quiver and it was good - but not great.
Thus he spake "Let The Holy number be N+1"
Behold, there was much rejoicing and veneration of the cards of credit
and four to six weeks later many deliveries of oddly shaped packages were brought forth
And they were good.

Here endeth the lesson
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A Quiver is technically the container for the arrows, rather than the collections of arrows itself, but I think it's a valid variation on the use of the word. I can't think of another 'single' word which could convey the concept of "a collection of many similar items where you select one at a time"

Doing a little digging, it seems it's also been in use by surfers for many more years than in skiing. I suspect that's where it's been adopted from


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emwmarine wrote:
I find that when people talk about their 'quiver' of skis, the use of the word gets me slightly irritated as it comes across as pretentious.


this suggests to me that you need to buy more skis
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Talking about a quiver of skis suggests to me that you are carrying them all around with you.
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Thats what caddys are for rjs. You pay for him to follow behing towing your quiver, so you can always make sure you have the right ski for the prevailing conditions.
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A righteous quiver i.e. one wisely and carefully chosen over a long period of time, with all lengths, weights, top sheet designs and turning radii properly synchronised along with the appropriate balance of brand rarity and all skis completely (ironically) Quiver Killered, will hum, make whale-type songs and vibrate in harmonic sympathy with the pressure drop of an approaching dump. I've never managed to achieve this with mine but I continue to search far and wide with hope (and a flapping wallet). The bigger the dump the more violent the noise.

That's what Moses' one did when he spent his 40 days in the wilderness (not many people know that; when he told folk that he'd been looking for lines they thought it had something to do with words and tablets; those old translation problems, eh?) and his finely tuned Ultimate Quiver remains a modern Holy Grail wherever skiers are gathered to this very day.
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Ok - i'll go with it then as there does seem to be such a long provenance for usage.

So, I only have two pairs of skis for my quiver but I have 3 road bikes and 2 MTBs. Should I refer to my bike collection as a quiver as well?
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Big Paua wrote:
The bigger the dump the more violent the noise.



Correct on so many levels.
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emwmarine, a collection of mountain bikes is more properly referred to as a "stable" (i.e. a place where you put your collection of steeds).

Hope this helps.
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A bunch of surfboards have been refered to as a quiver fors years.
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The closest things that I can think of where I have a collection of items and chose the best one for the task at hand are my tools and my golf clubs.

They can both be found in 'bags' and are part of a 'set'.

Quiver sounds better though.
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Dot. wrote:
I have a quiver of kids

Ah, the most expensive quiver of all Toofy Grin
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A Quiver is technically the container for the arrows,
If we go with this meaning then my car is my quiver when packed for a day on the snow.
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this suggests to me that you need to buy more skis

.... which leads on to the 2 magic formulae

R = C + 1
R = D - 1

Where:
R is the required number of skis
C is the current number of skis
D is the number of skis which would result in divorce...
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The reason the word 'Quiver' is used is because it describes the feeling in a snowsports enthusiasts 'personal area' when performing the act of adding 1 to N.
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Richard_Sideways,
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the feeling in a snowsports enthusiasts 'personal area'


Embarassed
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"Tremble or shake with a slight rapid motion"

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livetoski, would you prefer the word 'Frisson' wink
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geoffers wrote:
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this suggests to me that you need to buy more skis

.... which leads on to the 2 magic formulae

R = C + 1
R = D - 1

Where:
R is the required number of skis
C is the current number of skis
D is the number of skis which would result in divorce...


Presumably, R, C and D need to be divisible by 2?
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emwmarine, no, R could be 2, C = 1 and D = 3.
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geoffers wrote:
Quote:

this suggests to me that you need to buy more skis

.... which leads on to the 2 magic formulae

R = C + 1
R = D - 1

Where:
R is the required number of skis
C is the current number of skis
D is the number of skis which would result in divorce...


Interesting:

R=C+1=D-1

C+1 = D-1

C=D-2

So however many skis you currently have (C) it is always 2 fewer than the number that would result in divorce - carry on spending Laughing
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davehk, wrote

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R=C+1=D-1

C+1 = D-1

C=D-2


Spoken like an economist/hedge fund analyst. Mathematically true, but ignoring the fact that the first R and the second R are set by different real-world constraints, and likely to lead to financial armagedon.
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also that ski's come in pairs and that :

A not-equal 2A*0.5 , where 2A equals the value of a pair of skis.
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