 Poster: A snowHead
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| Raceplate wrote: |
| Mike Pow, bit of a difference, eh? OP is 89 kg hence why everyone is recommending 160cm +. |
Why? Because they think the OP will overpower a sub 160 cm ski?
I interpreted that the OP was relatively knew to the sport and wasn't generating the kind of forces where a bodyweight relative to her height would require a longer platform under her feet.
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| Ade57 wrote: |
| Mike Pow, Presumably you agree that height is not the only determining factor Mike? Out of curiosity I just measured my wife, not in ski boots. She's 5' 5'' and measures 155 cm to just below her nose. Therefore at 5' 8'' and other things taken into account 163 about right. My wife skis on a Fischer Koa 84 in a 159 by the way. |
If the 163cm ski is between the OPs nose and chin then I'd say yes.
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Why height Mike? If it's not to do with the forces being generated then what do you consider to be the determining factors? I agree with height as a rough guide but just a rough one, generally for busy hire shops.
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| Pedantica wrote: |
Mike Pow,
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My girlfriend is 5' 7" and skis on 153cm
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Gosh that does seem short. I'm just under 5'2", and only a tiny bit lighter than Nerys, but I ski on 152s. Mind you, that's about the shortest version of any ski I've ever had my eye on! |
That length works for her.
Maybe a 148cm ski might be worth a try for you.
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| Ade57 wrote: |
| Why height Mike? If it's not to do with the forces being generated then what do you consider to be the determining factors? I agree with height as a rough guide but just a rough one, generally for busy hire shops. |
If the OP was 6' 2" and 14 stone then I'd say a 163cm would be too small.
Would you?
If so, then both height and weight have a bearing on ski length.
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Levers of course have an effect and at 6' 2'' leverage is greater. I have not discounted height as a factor by the way, just not the only one. Type of ski, the skier's ability, skier's confidence, speed etc. all come into play. Interested to know what you think about the effect of other factors. In my experience it is easy for a skier on too small a ski to overpower it and develop poor technique as a result as it is for the ski to intimidate and overpower the skier if too long. The problem is that the former often goes unaddressed as the skier gets away with it and thinks they are half decent. This is of course a generalisation and wouldn't pertain e.g. factory slalom race ski in 165 for a 6' 2'' 14 stone man.
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| Ade57 wrote: |
| Levers of course have an effect and at 6' 2'' leverage is greater. I have not discounted height as a factor by the way, just not the only one. Type of ski, the skier's ability, skier's confidence, speed etc. all come into play. Interested to know what you think about the effect of other factors. In my experience it is easy for a skier on too small a ski to overpower it and develop poor technique as a result as it is for the ski to intimidate and overpower the skier if too long. The problem is that the former often goes unaddressed as the skier gets away with it and thinks they are half decent. This is of course a generalisation and wouldn't pertain e.g. factory slalom race ski in 165 for a 6' 2'' 14 stone man. |
Agree with most of that Ade57.
I've been using the 'chin to nose' method for many years for recreational skiers looking for an all mountain ski. It's simple but it works in my experience.
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Well the skis are more like between my nose and eyes. Would going for a slight shorter make any difference?
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Dals, Stick with them. Sorry you've had doubt from the latest round of contributions.
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I am so confused
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Look like very good skis .....
http://www.worldskitest.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53:testsieger-blizzard-viva-74-iq&catid=8&lang=en&Itemid=
Size matters but so does stiffness and how you use it. (sorry tried to keep it clean  )
As others have said, I suspect it's not just the length but the stiffness and the fact that being new skis the edges will be much better serviced (sharper) than your typical rental skis. The skis are probably a lost less forgiving of less than perfect technique and will be a handle to ski at first but with time you will most likely get used to them.
(I'm 5'8", just over 11 stone and started on 160's but now ski 170 to 177 cm long skis)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Dals wrote: |
| Well the skis are more like between my nose and eyes. Would going for a slight shorter make any difference? |
The sizing method I use works for me and my students. It may work for you, it may not.
Others on here have suggested longer, the guy in your local ski shop suggested much shorter.
Stick with the ones you have and continue to take lessons.
Out of interest did you ask the instructor who's been teaching you for a recommendation before you bought the Blizzards?
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No i didnt, i had different instructors each time. I have just apoke to ski manager who sold the skis, lovely chat. And decided to stick with them and have a lesson on them to gain my confidence back 
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You know it makes sense.
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Good call Dals!
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I agree with Ade57, you's paid your money stick with it. I am very experienced. A few years ago I changed from lovely slalom skis to a more all mountain set. For about 2 or 3 days I was all over the shop; just like your experience. If you have lessons the instructor should be able to tell you why you are having the crossing problem. As said above you are probably nervous and leaning back. Show the skis who's boss. Be positive with them. If you fall over then laugh about it. Held me back not wishing to look a fool by falling.
Length is ok. I am a shortty. 5'6" (169cm). Use 167s. Weigh under 12st. Why the diff to your 163s. Essentially, due to experience I will generate more force and can cope with the longer ski.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Dals, great! Your issues are common to all beginners so stick with it, things will get better.
Don't be too down on dryslopes - they are much more challenging than real snow but the upside is that when you go to a real mountain you'll find it relatively easy in comparison and will progress more quickly overall.
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Dals, If you don't like the dendix dry slopes, have a look around to see if there's one near you that has snowflex. Far more challenging than snow, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Snowflex tends to be used as indoor material here, so you won't get muddy boots. Just don't fall on it with bare skin. I did that once and it hurt. A lot.
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This one was the square shapes on it
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| Dals wrote: |
| This one was the square shapes on it |
That's dendix. Snowflex looks like white astroturf. Personally I think dendix is easier to ski on.
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It was really dry, very hot day. Even with sprinklers on, i hardly moved lol
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| Raceplate wrote: |
| Dals wrote: |
| This one was the square shapes on it |
That's dendix. Snowflex looks like white astroturf. Personally I think dendix is easier to ski on. |
Yep. Not as easy to hurt yourself on snowflex (fingers and wrists if the gaps aren't filled), but it's weird for sure.
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| Dals wrote: |
| It was really dry, very hot day. Even with sprinklers on, i hardly moved lol |
Yeah, that's not unusual in summer. Go in the winter, either when it's raining or got a frost on it - then it's good! Still, you did say that the speed of your new skis is what took you aback so much, so maybe going a little slower is a good thing for now!
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Yeah, thing was i felt i wanted to go bit faster ha ha. No pleasing me 
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| feef wrote: |
Really try pushing the heels of the skis out rather than just putting them on their edge as you could probably do with hire skis. |
don't push your heels out, this is a really common fault anyway so please don't aim to do it on purpose
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Dals if I was you I would carry on using the rental skis in the dome to learn how to parallel once you have mastered the parallel jump onto your skis and keep practising. As for length well with newer skis its a myth IMO you should buy what you want and feel comfy on.
Slalom skis are around 155s and downhill over 2m so the length depends on how you ski and how you want to ski.
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