Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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fatbob wrote: |
Kelv1n wrote: |
, my advise is go for a pair of 120cm Cross Max 140cm Mini Skis they are brilliant |
They indeed sound pretty special.
graeme aside , I'm now completely confused as to who is playing it straight and who is taking the wee wee in this thread.
Can we start again?
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Does that wee wee come from the OP as well though?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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graeme, I've never come across skiboards. Whats the difference between them and a pair of 120cm blades?
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Wider than blades, wood core instead of foam. Performance is much higher. Basically snowblades are crap compared to most skiboards
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Some confusion here. The original "Snowblades" were made by Salomon, I think. The name became, a bit like "Windsurfer" or "Hoover" a bit of a generic. IIRC they were 99cms long, they had nasty non-release bindings and my kids had enormous fun on them for years. I've used them too - they are used without poles (snowblades and poles is the ultimate stupidity) and are quite like skating - and yes, you use your arms a fair bit. Just like skaters, in fact.
I also have several pairs of Decathlon "Wedze" short skis, which are like the Atomic ones referred to above (though cheaper) and really bear no relation to those Salomon Snowblades. I've spent quite a bit of time on both. The short skis are like - well, they are like skis. They don't "chatter" on their bases like snowblades do and their construction enables people to ski just as badly in the back seat as "normal" skis. Blades HAD to be kept on their edges and unless your weight was right over your feet, you fell over. So they were quite helpful for training (I did a day's training on blades with a top BASI instructor on a Snoworks course)
Neither make a lot of sense in the park, where you need twin-tipped park skis.
It's really tedious when people use lazy stereotypes for entire groups of people because of the equipment they use.
And I snowboard too, sometimes! There is clearly no hope for me though I would prefer to be a stereotypical snowboarder than a stereotypical old age pensioner.
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I would prefer to be a stereotypical snowboarder than a stereotypical old age pensioner.
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So if I spot an old biddy shuffling round Tesco in Havant sporting a tall T, a beanie and outrageousky baggy pants, I shall know who it is.
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If you have learnt to ski then you can pick up some snowblades and use them quite easily. The other way round not so much and in anycase learning to ski is not hard.
If you are really good at skiing then you will be ridiculously good at snowblading. Case in point.
http://vimeo.com/5092569
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pam w wrote: |
Neither make a lot of sense in the park, where you need twin-tipped park skis.
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You don't need twin tips, especially when you are starting, but they do help.
I broke a binding at Milton Keynes a couple of years ago and had to resort to using some 155cm rental skis instead. I was disappointed and sceptical at first, especially with 2 hours of slope time remaining... but it was great fun! Not ideal for going backwards but because the edges were non-existent they were absolutely fine on boxes and rails.
After awhile you just forget what is on your feet and have fun.
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That Sean Pettit video and the Pain McShonkly one are great but the show the main problem I have with snowblades. The people in both those videos are all great skiers but they look like poo-poo on blades. If you want to learn to carve on groomed snow, or you are a beginner and can't be bothered to learn how to ski then blades look great, If you want to do anything more than that they require a ton of balance and energy. I went on holiday with some bladers once, they skied everywhere but they got absolutely knackered doing it. Oh and they used ski boards, don't really see the difference, it's like saying fat skis aren't skis cause the first skis were skinny, ski boards are just fat blades.
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Oh and they used ski boards, don't really see the difference
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If you had spent a day on Salomon Snowblades and on the Atomic short skis as recommended by flangesax above you wouldn't say that; the difference is huge. Much bigger than the difference between Atomic short skis (or the Wedze ones) and an ordinary pair of beginners on-piste "normal" skis.
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The people in both those videos are all great skiers but they look like poo-poo on blades.
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some people spend far too much time worrying about what they - or others - look like!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Elston wrote: |
If you are really good at skiing then you will be ridiculously good at snowblading. Case in point.
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at doing park tricks anyway, which is pretty limited tbh.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Claude B wrote: |
Elston wrote: |
If you are really good at skiing then you will be ridiculously good at snowblading. Case in point.
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at doing park tricks anyway, which is pretty limited tbh. |
In what way is freeskiing limited with free being the key word?
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pam w, saying you need twin tipped ski's in the park shows iust how little you know. People are doing the exact same tricks on blades/skiboards as the folk on twin tip skis.
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You know it makes sense.
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Elston, It just shows he is very good in the park on blades that's all. He might be a great racer, freeskier, etc too but this doesn't prove that.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Claude B, I think it does prove he's a phenominal freeskier and park skier (albeit with a unique slope style which isn't to everyone's taste). I do agree that it doesn't prove he's a good racer but no-one suggested that.
Perhaps you and pam w should start reserving your forthright opinions for things you actually have relevant experience in or caveating your opinions when you're stretching into lesser-trod territory (lest anyone mistake your post count for credibility) because clearly neither of you knows diddely squat about park or free skiing.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Are you ganging up on me
If you read what I said (twice) it was that he is obviously good in the park. And no I'm not particularly qualified to judge.
Does that make him a really good skier as stated? I don't know. It depends to an extent on your definition of what makes a great skier I suppose.
Anyway this is getting very off topic.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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graeme wrote: |
Wider than blades, wood core instead of foam. Performance is much higher |
Sounds like I definitely need to have a play on them Don't suppose you know if any of the shops in Arraba or VT hire them out?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Why the flame war on someone park monkeying successfully on blades - doesn't really prove much does it? A really good skier can ski on anything - you think its an accident that Rahlves won the snowlerblade chinese downhill in the clip I linked? But it doesn't mean that the anything is the best tool for the job for the average joe. The main thing I see when I see successful park skiers, boarders of (very seldom) bladers is how naturally balanced they are - it's the ability to take off balanced, stay balanced in the air or on the rail and land balanced that makes it. So if blades have a narrower range of balance points it's just something that needs refining more.
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fatbob, hear, hear - the video was an attempt to portray that exact point visually to emphasise that the reverse isn't possible. (starting on blades and hopping onto skis and being as good)
Claude B, not ganging up - sorry if it came across like that. Just my patience expiring on seeming 'expert opinions' without caveats (nicely added BTW); not just this thread either. Where's the yawn smilie?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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flowa, No problem.
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Claude B, cheers
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